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Old 03-30-2013, 04:08 AM  
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North Korea Declares War on the US

Full war declaration statement from DPRK (via KCNA):

The moves of the U.S. imperialists to violate the sovereignty of the DPRK and encroach upon its supreme interests have entered an extremely grave phase. Under this situation, the dear respected Marshal Kim Jong Un, brilliant commander of Mt. Paektu, convened an urgent operation meeting on the performance of duty of the Strategic Rocket Force of the Korean People's Army for firepower strike and finally examined and ratified a plan for firepower strike.

The important decision made by him is the declaration of a do-or-die battle to provide an epochal occasion for putting an end to the history of the long-standing showdown with the U.S. and opening a new era. It is also a last warning of justice served to the U.S., south Korean group and other anti-reunification hostile forces. The decision reflects the strong will of the army and people of the DPRK to annihilate the enemies.

Now the heroic service personnel and all other people of the DPRK are full of surging anger at the U.S. imperialists' reckless war provocation moves, and the strong will to turn out as one in the death-defying battle with the enemies and achieve a final victory of the great war for national reunification true to the important decision made by Kim Jong Un.

The Supreme Command of the KPA in its previous statement solemnly declared at home and abroad the will of the army and people of the DPRK to take decisive military counteraction to defend the sovereignty of the country and the dignity of its supreme leadership as regards the war moves of the U.S. and south Korean puppets that have reached the most extreme phase.

Not content with letting B-52 make sorties into the sky over south Korea in succession despite the repeated warnings of the DPRK, the U.S. made B-2A stealth strategic bomber and other ultra-modern strategic strike means fly from the U.S. mainland to south Korea to stage a bombing drill targeting the DPRK. This is an unpardonable and heinous provocation and an open challenge.

By taking advantage of the U.S. reckless campaign for a nuclear war against the DPRK, the south Korean puppets vociferated about "preemptive attack" and "strong counteraction" and even "strike at the commanding forces", openly revealing the attempt to destroy monuments symbolic of the dignity of the DPRK's supreme leadership.

This clearly shows that the U.S. brigandish ambition for aggression and the puppets' attempt to invade the DPRK have gone beyond the limit and their threats have entered the reckless phase of an actual war from the phase of threat and blackmail.

The prevailing grim situation more clearly proves that the Supreme Command of the KPA was just when it made the judgment and decision to decisively settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists and south Korean puppets by dint of the arms of Songun, because time when words could work has passed.

Now they are openly claiming that the B-2A stealth strategic bombers' drill of dropping nuclear bombs was "not to irritate the north" but "the defensive one". The U.S. also says the drill is "to defend the interests of its ally". However, it is nothing but a lame pretext to cover up its aggressive nature, evade the denunciation at home and abroad and escape from the DPRK's retaliatory blows.

The era when the U.S. resorted to the policy of strength by brandishing nuclear weapons has gone.

It is the resolute answer of the DPRK and its steadfast stand to counter the nuclear blackmail of the U.S. imperialists with merciless nuclear attack and their war of aggression with just all-out war.

They should clearly know that in the era of Marshal Kim Jong Un, the greatest-ever commander, all things are different from what they used to be in the past.

The hostile forces will clearly realize the iron will, matchless grit and extraordinary mettle of the brilliant commander of Mt. Paektu that the earth cannot exist without Songun Korea.

Time has come to stage a do-or-die final battle.

The government, political parties and organizations of the DPRK solemnly declare as follows reflecting the final decision made by Kim Jong Un at the operation meeting of the KPA Supreme Command and the unanimous will of all service personnel and people of the DPRK who are waiting for a final order from him.

1.From this moment, the north-south relations will be put at the state of war and all the issues arousing between the north and the south will be dealt with according to the wartime regulations.

The state of neither peace nor war has ended on the Korean Peninsula.

Now that the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK have entered into an actual military action, the inter-Korean relations have naturally entered the state of war. Accordingly, the DPRK will immediately punish any slightest provocation hurting its dignity and sovereignty with resolute and merciless physical actions without any prior notice.

2. If the U.S. and the south Korean puppet group perpetrate a military provocation for igniting a war against the DPRK in any area including the five islands in the West Sea of Korea or in the area along the Military Demarcation Line, it will not be limited to a local war, but develop into an all-out war, a nuclear war.

It is self-evident that any military conflict on the Korean Peninsula is bound to lead to an all-out war, a nuclear war now that even U.S. nuclear strategic bombers in its military bases in the Pacific including Hawaii and Guam and in its mainland are flying into the sky above south Korea to participate in the madcap DPRK-targeted nuclear war moves.

The first strike of the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK will blow up the U.S. bases for aggression in its mainland and in the Pacific operational theatres including Hawaii and Guam and reduce not only its military bases in south Korea but the puppets' ruling institutions including Chongwadae and puppet army's bases to ashes at once, to say nothing of the aggressors and the provokers.

3. The DPRK will never miss the golden chance to win a final victory in a great war for national reunification.

This war will not be a three day-war but it will be a blitz war through which the KPA will occupy all areas of south Korea including Jeju Island at one strike, not giving the U.S. and the puppet warmongers time to come to their senses, and a three-dimensional war to be fought in the air, land and seas and on the front line and in the rear.

This sacred war of justice will be a nation-wide, all-people resistance involving all Koreans in the north and the south and overseas in which the traitors to the nation including heinous confrontation maniacs, warmongers and human scum will be mercilessly swept away.

No force on earth can break the will of the service personnel and people of the DPRK all out in the just great war for national reunification and of all other Koreans and overpower their might.

Holding in high esteem the peerlessly great men of Mt. Paektu, the Korean people will give vent to the pent-up grudge and realize their cherished desire and thus bring a bright day of national reunification and build the best power on this land without fail.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/North_Korea/70001409
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:19 PM   #61
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Kristol labeled Obama a born again NeoCon, remember?
Kristol is an idiot. So what's your point?
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:19 PM   #62
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:20 PM   #63
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Kristol is an idiot. So what's your point?
I didn't create this label for Obama. A NeoCon did. I posted to the poster in Post #38 but it applies to yours as well I suppose. You're shooting the messenger.
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:29 PM   #64
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Yes silly you. They pretty much are. Republican Kristol also loves Obamacare too.
They pretty much are not.
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:31 PM   #65
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I didn't create this label for Obama. A NeoCon did. I posted to the poster in Post #38 but it applies to yours as well I suppose. You're shooting the messenger.

You are spouting it as a truth that is the cause behind this war declaration. Just the messenger my ass.
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:56 PM   #66
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Why? I've seen him on Fox gushing over it. Gushing how Obama is an interventionist and a born-again NeoCon.
You're probably confusing praise for politics rather than substance. Kristol does not love Obamacare.
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You're probably confusing praise for politics rather than substance. Kristol does not love Obamacare.
I don't think he's exactly indifferent to it.
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They're not a target because they don't take sides in other's conflicts. And they are heavily armed too. Once you take a side you make a new enemy. We don't need to make a name for ourselves this way. That's status and egoistic if that's the purpose of our country. But worst of all, it embroils us in more hostilities. You're touting a certain form of American Exceptionalism—the kind that's heart and soul of NeoConservativism.

But we've been through this debate before and it's never going to end with us agreeing. This is where I part ways with today's Republican party, which is pretty much like the Democratic party in this area.



Yes we do. And that's what many of our Framers envisioned...'cept for those pesky Federalists — Hamilton's cronies.
Switzerland doesn't have to take sides anywhere to keep the world safe for freedom-oriented western countries because the US does it. If the US didn't do it, no one would.
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See what you made me do pat!!! I just burned my cornbread debating this same ole same ole with you.
I don't like cornbread so from my pov, I saved you from yourself.
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I don't think he's exactly indifferent to it.
No, you're right, he's not indifferent to it. He opposes it. Here's one of his comments on it from before the last election:

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How she gets support for Obamacare from an attitude like that is beyond me.
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No, you're right, he's not indifferent to it. He opposes it. Here's one of his comments on it from before the last election:



How she gets support for Obamacare from an attitude like that is beyond me.
Because he didn't say that when it first passed. He loved it. He's a snake, who will say such things to keep the conservatives in his camp. Besides he's a "repeal and replace" guy. It's nothing but his Straussian window dressing when you look at other things he's done like in the 90's. He has slammed the idea of less govt along with Podhoretz. Krauthammer used to write Mondale's speeches.
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