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Old 03-28-2013, 10:49 PM  
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Obama Signs Monsanto Protection Act Into Law After Promising GMO Labeling in 2007

Obama Signs Monsanto Protection Act Into Law After Promising GMO Labeling in 2007

President Obama has signed into law the notorious Monsanto Protection Act legislation hidden inside of the Continuing Resolution spending bill, which protects Monsanto and its genetically modified creations from federal courts.

by Anthony Gucciardi
NaturalSociety.com
March 28, 2013

Passing up the chance to veto the bill in favor of stopping Monsanto’s increasing monopoly on the food supply, Obama pushed the bill through into a law in a move that reminds us of his failed 2007 promise to ‘immediately’ label GMOs upon his election.

Contained in the rider (Farmer Assurance Provision, Sec. 735) of HR 933, Monsanto is now even protected (at least under this law) from the United States government.

As I pointed out in a previous article, the Monsanto Protection Act’s success actually proves how corporations have more power than even the United States federal government. Monsanto’s lobbyists managed to slip the rider into the major bill, which — despite the rider — has virtually nothing to do with the topic.

This is a typical and routinely practiced move by lobbyists to insert an incognito line of legislation into a bill generally viewed as favorable overall. One that has proven to be effective for Monsanto.


2007 Promise to Label GMOs

The result is now major outcry against Obama for signing the bill into law and protecting the biotech juggernaut Monsanto. Many fail to remember, however, that Obama first decided to allow Monsanto to continue pulverizing the food supply and the health of the nation back in 2008 when he went back on his promise to ‘immediately’ label GMOs. It was in 2007, during a campaign speech, that Obama first stated his support of non-GMO and GMO labeling activists, in which he promised to swiftly label GMOs.


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For a brief period before the bill was passed by the Senate and now signed into law by Obama, both myself and many others in the alternative news community crusaded tirelessly to alert politicians and activists in order to stop the Protection Act from going through. Unfortunately, time was not on our side. The hasty vote by the Senate and the news blackout from the mainstream media were enough to break through the warnings of concerned activists (and people who just want real food). Now, however, renewed interest in the GMO labeling campaign and the fight against Monsanto brews.

With such a blatant and cocky act against the United States and its people, Monsanto has set itself up to fail. Let’s remind Obama of his promise to label GMOs he made many years ago.

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Old 03-30-2013, 12:19 PM   #31
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The seed ownership issue is another matter. I really really hate that part. But that issue goes much deeper than just agricultural seeds. It's much more broad than that. Also included in the patent ownership issue is any other technology that has the ability to self replicate. Things like software, or other IP property that can be duplicated. So the fight for replication ownership is not limited to Monsanto.

I disagree with all of it, and don't feel that ownership has any place when dealing with matters like that.

But it should also be noted that the seed ownership issue is also very unenforceable. Once farmers get the seeds and grow their own crop, they have their own replenishing supply of seeds right there, and there's very little that Monsanto or anyone else could do to prevent it. In the case of soybeans for example, a single acre of planted soybeans can produce enough seeds to plant 26 acres the next year. Any farmer can essentially retain whatever seed supply they wanted with a little effort. It's pathetic that common sense can't be applied to the situation. But it is what it is.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:00 PM   #32
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The seed ownership issue is another matter. I really really hate that part. But that issue goes much deeper than just agricultural seeds. It's much more broad than that. Also included in the patent ownership issue is any other technology that has the ability to self replicate. Things like software, or other IP property that can be duplicated. So the fight for replication ownership is not limited to Monsanto.

I disagree with all of it, and don't feel that ownership has any place when dealing with matters like that.

But it should also be noted that the seed ownership issue is also very unenforceable. Once farmers get the seeds and grow their own crop, they have their own replenishing supply of seeds right there, and there's very little that Monsanto or anyone else could do to prevent it. In the case of soybeans for example, a single acre of planted soybeans can produce enough seeds to plant 26 acres the next year. Any farmer can essentially retain whatever seed supply they wanted with a little effort. It's pathetic that common sense can't be applied to the situation. But it is what it is.
What happens when the seeds have terminator technology in them? Are there ways to obviate that?
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:30 PM   #33
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As usual, you have no clue what you're talking about.
Project much?

Your first link verifies what I said. This has been since the 1990's.
I say, if you don't follow natural health or organics then you're the one who has no clue.

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We have absolutely been using GMOs for decades.
Nope. I think you need to specify what you mean by decades because that sounds like more than a couple.

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Any product you buy that has high fructose corn syrup comes from GMO corn.
You mean the stuff that makes people fat? This isn't really related to the points I raise. Besides, I already knew this and it's really bad for you too.
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In a recent study published in the January issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), a team of scientists have found that consuming fructose effects how our brains deal with hunger. The study finds that the part of the brain that deals with feeling full, did not kick in, when consuming fructose.

Delia Quigley, of Care2.com, reports, "Scientists at the Yale University School of Medicine enlisted 20 adults who were each given 75g of pure glucose and another time 75g of fructose to drink. Their brains were scanned before and after consuming the drinks, leading to some interesting observations. The glucose caused a reduced blood flow to the brain’s hypothalamus signaling that the body was satisfied and full; while the fructose caused an increase in blood flow signaling that it was not sated and wanted more."

The artificial sweetener High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) is genetically modified to decrease glucose, and increase fructose. From Wikipedia, HFCS "comprises any of a group of corn syrups that has undergone enzymatic processing to convert some of its glucose into fructose to produce a desired sweetness." http://www.thegoodmanchronicle.com/2...aking-you.html
Keep making excuses and be a guinea pig. See if I care. Meanwhile, I will eat organic, from my own garden or a from a cooperative where I know where and what the food is from. I don't like ****ing with nature in this way.


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Two of the enzymes used to make HFCS, alpha-amylase and glucose-isomerase, are genetically modified to make them more stable. GMO corn is cheaper and produces far more yield, so it's the perfect choice for HFCS. Good luck finding food at your supermarket that doesn't contain HFCS.
Well, I don't buy all my food in a supermarket. Thank gawd!

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GMOs have already had a dramatic effect on many countries in the world. The Hawaiian papaya industry would be completely gone today, were it not for GMO improvements.
There's contrary facts per what I've read. Lots of it. The sources for this are those pushing it. So of course, they make such claims.


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GMOs are in everything, and they have been for a long time. And that's going to keep increasing.
Specify a "long time." Particularly, since your own link says since the 1990's.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:07 PM   #34
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What happens when the seeds have terminator technology in them? Are there ways to obviate that?
As much as they'd like to, Monsanto cannot use gene use restriction technology in anything they produce. Back in 99, they committed to never use the technology. How bulletproof that commitment is... that's anybody's guess. But I really don't see them pursuing it.

Gene use restriction has lots of questions as it is. How would it affect the biodiversity of other plant life? Would it force dependence on seed companies? Many people say that even if they used the terminator technology, it could still be bred out of the plant with a bit of normal cross breeding. My friends in the Ag business are pretty confident that gene terminator technology couldn't ever have the stopping effect that people worry about. As Jeff Goldblum would say, "Life will find a way"...
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To add on to what Fish said, one of the modifications made to GM corn is to allow it to grow in closer proximity to other plants. Fit more corn in the same area=higher yield.

One of the unfortunate side effects for the nutrition of corn (although beneficial for using it as a sugar substitute) is the change in the corn kernel, which was formerly high in protein (b/c of the germ, I believe) and is now almost entirely starch.

Of course, HFCS is a topic of debate all to itself, as are genetic modifications of things like glyphosate resistance, which runs the same risk as antibiotic overuse, not to mention the potentially hazardous effects of consuming foods that are awash in pesticides.

It's a complicated problem with merits and faults. If your options are to eat GM casava or starve to death it's a stupid argument. They aren't all bad. But they aren't panaceas either. As usual, nuance loses.
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As much as they'd like to, Monsanto cannot use gene use restriction technology in anything they produce. Back in 99, they committed to never use the technology. How bulletproof that commitment is... that's anybody's guess. But I really don't see them pursuing it.

Gene use restriction has lots of questions as it is. How would it affect the biodiversity of other plant life? Would it force dependence on seed companies? Many people say that even if they used the terminator technology, it could still be bred out of the plant with a bit of normal cross breeding. My friends in the Ag business are pretty confident that gene terminator technology couldn't ever have the stopping effect that people worry about. As Jeff Goldblum would say, "Life will find a way"...
Informative. Thanks.
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I've already started the thread that Obama sucks at being a communist/Socialist.
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I find it pretty easy to avoid GM corn at the store. Just avoid the middle old the store. I also stay away from wheat based products.
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I've already started the thread that Obama sucks at being a communist/Socialist.
Just what do you call class warfare rhetoric and words like redistribution?
Fascism is a sister to socialism/communism.
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To add on to what Fish said, one of the modifications made to GM corn is to allow it to grow in closer proximity to other plants. Fit more corn in the same area=higher yield.

One of the unfortunate side effects for the nutrition of corn (although beneficial for using it as a sugar substitute) is the change in the corn kernel, which was formerly high in protein (b/c of the germ, I believe) and is now almost entirely starch.

Of course, HFCS is a topic of debate all to itself, as are genetic modifications of things like glyphosate resistance, which runs the same risk as antibiotic overuse, not to mention the potentially hazardous effects of consuming foods that are awash in pesticides.

It's a complicated problem with merits and faults. If your options are to eat GM casava or starve to death it's a stupid argument. They aren't all bad. But they aren't panaceas either. As usual, nuance loses.
All pure bullshit.
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All pure bullshit.
Do you mean bullshit about what Monsanto is doing to corn, or bullshit to all his points?
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Corn is a poor choice in nutrition -- it's in every ****ing thing too, especially kids food. Corn crops are soil intensive -- normally need to be rotated crops and for this reason it is also a poor choice in methanol resource. but hey, corn subsides FTW
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All pure bullshit.
Offer a counterargument to any of those claims, please.
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Just what do you call class warfare rhetoric and words like redistribution?
Fascism is a sister to socialism/communism.
Class warfare itself is a rhetorical term.

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