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Old 03-28-2013, 06:41 AM  
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New study confirms economy was destroyed by Democrat policies

New study confirms economy was destroyed by Democrat policies

Economy
December 21, 2012
By: Robert Moon

A new study from the widely respected National Bureau of Economic Research released this week has confirmed beyond question that the left's race-baiting attacks on the housing market (the Community Reinvestment Act--enacted under Carter, made shockingly more aggressive under Clinton) is directly responsible for imploding the housing market and destroying the economy.

The study painstakingly sorted through failed home loans that caused the housing market collapse and identified an overwhelming connection between them and CRA mortgages.

Again, let's review:

-President Bush went to Congress repeatedly for years warning them that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were going to destroy the economy (17 times in 2008 alone). Democrats continuously ignored him, shut down his proposals along party lines and continued raiding the institutions for campaign contributions on their way down.
Fox News shows timeline for economic meltdown
Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown

-John McCain also co-sponsored urgently critical reforms that would have prevented the housing market collapse, but Democrats shut that down as well, along party lines, and even openly ridiculed anyone who suggested reforms were necessary...to protect their taxpayer-funded campaign contributions as the economy raced uncontrollably toward the cliff.

-No one was making bad loans to unqualified people until Democrats came along and threatened to drag banks into court and have them fined and branded as racists if they didn't go along with the left's Affirmative Action lending policies...all while federally insuring their losses. Even the New York Times warned in the late 1990s that Democrats continuing to force banks into lowering their standards would lead to this exact catastrophe.

-Obama himself is even on the record personally helping sue one lender (Citibank) into lowering its lending standards to include people from extremely poor and unstable areas, which even one of the left's favorite blatantly partisan "fact-checkers," Snopes, admits (while pretending to 'set the record straight').

-Even The New York Times admitted that there is "little evidence" of any connection between the "Republican" deregulation measures Obama blames, like the Gramm-Bleach-Liley Act (signed into law by a Democrat), and the collapse of the housing market.

But non-Fox media have spent years deliberately and relentlessly inoculating people against the facts, training them to mindlessly blame Bush for being in charge when Democrat policies destroyed the economy. So here we sit, to this day, still watching Obama excuse and shrug off endless economic failures, illegal government takeovers and utter national bankruptcy with zero accountability.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:06 PM   #76
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That's all that dipshit has. He's more proof that as long as you direct your racism towards Hispanics on Chiefsplanet, you won't get any shit for it.
Mentioning your "race" isn't racism, hombre.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:08 PM   #77
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I've been a residential lender for 25 years. I've consistently originated $50,000,000 + every year for the last 10 years. I've designed portfolio residential platforms and products for Community Banks.

We as lenders originate to Agency standards "salability". Thatís what responsible lenders do and have done. The GSE's set the benchmarks. When those "salability" requirements became less stringent as to allow anyone that could fog a mirror qualify for a loan many portfolio lenders followed suit. To some degree to meet CRA requirements but more so to remain competitive.

Don't you think the lenders pedaling loan products on the street became aware when the underwriting requirements changed?

Look, I realize that youíre a dumb ****ing kid that has no clue even though you think you have all the answers. I'd bet almost anything that you do not or have never applied for or qualified for a home mortgage. I worked my ass off to become one of the industryís top producers over the years and I guarantee I've forgotten more about this business than you'll ever know you little back biting bitch.

The real problem for you with this whole mess is 6 years ago I could even give an illegal mexican like yourself a home loan, not now Natcho Libra
Bitter piece of shit racist is bitter.

Considering that you claim certain things to be true when they are demonstrably false shows you are full of shit. I don't believe one word of how much you have originated. I sure as **** don't believe that you are anything other than a loan salesman. You lack the mental capacity for just about anything other than reading from a script and key hunting on your keyboard.

My credit score is excellent BTW. I could walk into a bank and be qualified for a mortgage quite easily. Thanks for asking. Don't let any of that get in your way though.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:10 PM   #78
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I think you have me confused with somone else. There is a locochieffan I think, but I never said SEALs didn't take out bin Laden. I saw the movie so I know they did.
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Ah, ok. Too many loco people around here.
No, he is one of the fringe lunatic racists on here. I get plenty of neg rep with all kinds of racial slurs in it from him. Don't let him try and act any other way.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:11 PM   #79
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It's been a 1 - 2 punch cloaked in lies from both parties ever since.
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it is hilarious to me, a life long republican that watched our country go from the shiz during the fifties to the shit bin during the sixties and then the crooked bin during the seventies -- when nixon shit canned all accountability by taking america off the gold standard.

It's been a 1 - 2 punch cloaked in lies from both parties ever since.
You're stuck in an America that never existed.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:17 PM   #81
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Well, you are right. Indeed, here we see the problem with citing a study without linking to it or even identifying its title or authors! There are actually two papers out now. The study I referred to that I've read (also hosted by the NBER, which acts as a sort of clearinghouse of new economics research) used a similar approach and reached the exact opposite conclusion. Here is its abstract:



Here is the link:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/wp/2012/2012-005.pdf

As you can see, it reaches the exact opposite conclusion as the OP and headline, which is what I thought I was responding to. Thats my bad, I was wrong about the OP (but this is why it should have linked to the study it referred to).

All thats left is to read both papers and argue about which authors' empirical strategy of finding exogenous variation in CRA application is more valid.




There are 2 issues here. One is the CRA, and the other is de-regulation of lending standards. They are often confused when they are pretty different topics. While I think the CRA is blameless (though I haven't read the new paper yet), I absolutely agree that de-regulation of lending standards and loose oversight played an important role in creating the housing bubble.

BTW, if you do want to read the paper, I can send you a version, no charge.
If the 2nd paper is what I think it is, they basically say because Fannie and Freddie decided to get into the subprime game they created a market for it so they caused the subprime industry to grow because the perception that Fannie and Freddie were moving into it.

It's nonsense.
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Thanks for the standup response. I doubt that I'd understand the paper well enough (or at least that I'd take the time to read it and figure it out) to make it worth having you send it to me, but thanks for the offer.

If you decide to read the second paper, I'd be interested in hearing your comments.
Hey, you were actually somewhat honest here. Despite several years and much ink/e-ink being spilled on the topic, you still haven't even attempted to learn the basics of what happened and only rely on talking points that are fed to you.
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And just for shits and giggles to prove people who refuse to learn about this wrong here is some info on Fannie's and Freddie's mortgage losses.

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Some combination of the upward trend in housing prices, especially after 1996, and the GSEs’ expertise in selecting higher-quality borrowers among those with apparently lower qualifications, kept the GSEs’ losses low. From 1990 through 2007 Freddie Mac’s credit losses on its mortgages in portfolio plus guaranteed RMBS never exceeded 0.11% annually; for Fannie Mae the comparable credit losses never exceeded 0.06%. For the years 1999-2005 (for Fannie Mae) and 2000-2006 (for Freddie Mac) the credit losses were only 0.01% annually!
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Mentioning your "race" isn't racism, hombre.
heh that's rich coming from the coward that hides behind context all the time.
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you're like an amoeba. but a stupid amoeba.
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heh that's rich coming from the coward that hides behind context all the time.
Hides behind context? Is that what the charlatans and con artists are calling it these days?
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Hides behind context? Is that what the charlatans and con artists in the liberal media bubble are calling it these days?
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don't worry. in 2016, we'll elect a republican and he'll fix everything. Everything will be GOLD. Then in 2024, we will go back to a democrat and then they'll get it all fixed up. Shit, society will have broken down by that point.
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don't worry. in 2016, we'll elect a republican and he'll fix everything. Everything will be GOLD. Then in 2024, we will go back to a democrat and then they'll get it all fixed up. Shit, society will have broken down by that point.
You sure it will take that long? You're more optimistic than I am.
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