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Old 03-27-2013, 09:06 AM  
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T-Mobile Drops Long-Term Contracts and Phone Subsidies

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...165347489.html

T-Mobile, the fourth largest U.S. cellphone carrier, held an “un-carrier” event on Tuesday in New York to announce it was dropping long-term customer contracts and phone purchase subsidies. It also revealed it was going to start offering the iPhone for the first time -- an effort to attract more subscribers.
The iPhone will be available starting April 12 at a price of $99.99 down plus $20 a month for 24 months, and other smartphones will be available with similar payment plans.

Customers will also be charged a monthly fee for a data plan. A new cellular account that has unlimited talk, text and Web with 500MB high-speed data costs $50 a month; with 2GB high-speed $60 a month and with unlimited 4G data $70 a month.

Getting rid of 2-year contracts for phones “sounds good to me,” says The Daily Ticker’s Lauren Lyster. “But guess how long you have to pay for that phone? Two years.” So is this just a gimmick?

Maybe not. Under the T-Mobile plan, once the phone is paid off, the customer owns it and the customer's monthly payments would decline.

That’s not the case with Verizon Wireless (VZ), AT&T Wireless (T) and Sprint Nextel (S). They subsidize the price of new phones so the phones cost about $200 upfront but they charge a regularly monthly for the phone purchase. Bottom line: the T-Mobile plan would be cheaper, but is it better?

Related: FreedomPop Challenges Phone Companies with Free Data Plan
Walter Piecyk, analyst at BTIG Research, compared the new T-Mobile pricing plan to that of Verizon Wireless, AT&T and Sprint Nextel for a “low-priced value rate plan” and concluded, "The monthly cost for the low-end user is lower” for T-Mobile.

A CNET report agrees. “T-Mobile’s pricing does seem to beat the big guys.” But CNET advises customers: “When you are pricing out these plans, make sure you are comparing apples to apples.”

The Daily Ticker’s Aaron Task says, “It’s almost impossible to do an apples-to-apples comparison of the different data plans and the different terms of these plans which is intentional. The carriers want you to be confused so you don’t know if you’re getting the best deal or not.”
But if you want to try to compare T-Mobile’s new pricing plan to that of other cell phone carriers, you should keep these differences in mind, according to a CNET report: T-Mobile doesn’t offer the option of sharing data among members in a family plan
T-Mobile offers unlimited data but if you go beyond the maximum for your plan—say, the 500 MB high-speed data plan—your data speeds will slow unless you pay extra for an upgrade.

And then, of course, there’s the service itself. Can you make the calls you need and stay connected when you need to? Is the data download fast enough? That will likely depend on your location. Keep in mind that T-Mobile is in the process of a massive network upgrade and is offering fast 4G LTE in seven major metro areas.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:53 PM   #2
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They also announced the iPhone 5...its about time.

This will be an interesting test. Will customers be willing to pay full price for a smartphone upfront?
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:57 PM   #3
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I imagine that this will flop. It might, MIGHT be a better proposition if the service weren't so jacked up all the time.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:00 PM   #4
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Will customers be willing to pay full price for a smartphone upfront?
Installment plans are available.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:01 PM   #5
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:06 PM   #6
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Once my contract is up.....I'm moving to Ting.com.
Why not just use Straight Talk?

Everything unlimited for just under $50/mo
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:08 PM   #7
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Installment plans are available.
ah...i see....they are just giving customers the choice now without having to be locked into a contract.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:17 PM   #8
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I like the idea of your bill changing depending on what you use. Plus I can bring over my existing Sprint phone for no cost.
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Plus I can bring over my existing Sprint phone for no cost.
Ah, I see.
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So im under an existing contract with Tmobile with about 6 months to go. Will they let me out of it now?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:49 PM   #11
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I believe that in Europe and elsewhere it is common for the consumer to purchase the phone outright and then select the company you want service from. Getting the return on investment for subsidizing phones hasn't been as good as companies expected (especially if you're on an unlimited plan). They expect the data usage, purchasing of content and apps will make up for the difference and they've been chasing that dragon for a long time.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:11 PM   #12
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I love it, but we'll see how successful it is. This brings them much closer to how a lot of the European carriers work.


The biggest problem with t-mobile is their network. It's great if you're in an area with HSPA+, but if you adventure away from big cities you can find yourself in 2G pretty fast. And LTE is just now rolling out. But they're investing a lot in infrastructure right now...
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I believe that in Europe and elsewhere it is common for the consumer to purchase the phone outright and then select the company you want service from. Getting the return on investment for subsidizing phones hasn't been as good as companies expected (especially if you're on an unlimited plan). They expect the data usage, purchasing of content and apps will make up for the difference and they've been chasing that dragon for a long time.
It's much more common in Europe, but the plans are much cheaper in most of Europe. Prepaid is also far more popular there. You can pop into a store, buy a sim, and be set up with phone and data for not much money (or time) at all.


The carrier subsidies aren't that good of a deal for buyers. The problem is that everyone here is used to three prices: $0, $99, $199. Convincing consumers that another world exists will take some effort.

But for anyone that is a technology snob, getting off a contract makes perfect sense. And it could lead to more competitiveness on the unlocked market. Here the Nexus 4 from the play store becomes good value. Might Motorola join the fun?
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Re the t mobile phones going to work on the MetroPCS network when the nerger is complete. MetroPCS has no rural presence so it shouldn't make that any better.
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Re the t mobile phones going to work on the MetroPCS network when the nerger is complete. MetroPCS has no rural presence so it shouldn't make that any better.
The MetroPCS network won't exist. It's CDMA based and completely incompatible with tmobiles. They'll keep it running for a few years while they transition everyone to new phone, and then trash it.
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