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Old 03-26-2013, 05:22 PM  
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The missing debate on gun control

I ask this of everyone I meet now who is pro-gun control; why are we not hearing about stiffer penalties for gun related crimes? Why are we singling out the least used weapon in gun crimes?

The first question is the one I want to see anwered the most. Why do we hear nothing but "ban, ban, ban" but we don't hear "increased penalities for gun related crimes"?


Why is the President and his ilk so quick to take from those who have done no wrong instead of increasing the punishment for those who have?

Perhaps there have been some spatterings of this but I have not heard it. I didn't hear it in NY. I didn't hear it in CO. I'm not hearing it from CA.

What are we hearing? You cannot own this. "You cannot own that. It's a felony if you own this. It's a felony if you own that."
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:53 PM   #16
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JFC. Those stats from 2010 stated that the denials accounted for 1.2% of the over 6 million checks. Now, for the sake of discussion we will forget how few of those resulted in actual arrests and convictions. We will say that the entire 1.2% were bad guys trying to get their hands on guns they shouldn't have. So now, what stands out about that number? Maybe the fact that 98.8% of the bad guys WENT SOME WHERE OTHER THAN THE LOCAL GUN STORE.

This MANDATORY universal background check is a farce. You can say it is mandatory but, do you really think your average black market arms dealer is a good enough citizen to call in a check before he sells to someone? Good luck with that.

You won't even get most private sellers to phone this shit in. No way in way the bad guys do.
You make a good point about sellers. So I will tack on a mandatory 20 years for selling a gun illegally and\or not doing a background check.

So just so you understand I don't care what they do in the black market because eventually with tough mandatory sentencing that will be reduced significantly. See it is very simple, you commit a crime with a gun purchased illegally you get 10 years on top of your sentence. The seller gets busted for not doing background checks he gets 20 years mandatory. Joe Blow driving down the street gets pulled over and has a gun that he didn't register he gets 10 years mandatory.

Eventually with tough mandatory sentencing people will start following the law. That is not to say that people still won't try to sell or purchase guns in the black market because honestly that will never truly go away but they do so at their peril.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:04 PM   #17
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You make a good point about sellers. So I will tack on a mandatory 20 years for selling a gun illegally and\or not doing a background check.

So just so you understand I don't care what they do in the black market because eventually with tough mandatory sentencing that will be reduced significantly. See it is very simple, you commit a crime with a gun purchased illegally you get 10 years on top of your sentence. The seller gets busted for not doing background checks he gets 20 years mandatory. Joe Blow driving down the street gets pulled over and has a gun that he didn't register he gets 10 years mandatory.

Eventually with tough mandatory sentencing people will start following the law. That is not to say that people still won't try to sell or purchase guns in the black market because honestly that will never truly go away but they do so at their peril.
& then after all this libtard bullshit you speak of. Some crazed mother ****er still kicks in your door,kills you with a illeagal handgun, rapes your wife & smiles at your children while doing it
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:10 PM   #18
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You make a good point about sellers. So I will tack on a mandatory 20 years for selling a gun illegally and\or not doing a background check.

So just so you understand I don't care what they do in the black market because eventually with tough mandatory sentencing that will be reduced significantly. See it is very simple, you commit a crime with a gun purchased illegally you get 10 years on top of your sentence. The seller gets busted for not doing background checks he gets 20 years mandatory. Joe Blow driving down the street gets pulled over and has a gun that he didn't register he gets 10 years mandatory.

Eventually with tough mandatory sentencing people will start following the law. That is not to say that people still won't try to sell or purchase guns in the black market because honestly that will never truly go away but they do so at their peril.

Hahahahaha! The black market for guns will not get smaller, it will get bigger. The black market exists specifically FOR contraband. Seriously, the war on drugs is laughing at you so hard right now it can't breath.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:28 PM   #19
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Hahahahaha! The black market for guns will not get smaller, it will get bigger. The black market exists specifically FOR contraband. Seriously, the war on drugs is laughing at you so hard right now it can't breath.
What are you talking about??? They have put in place laws to prevent drugs from being used or sold. Now there are no drugs being sold or used. I am still perplexed that they did away with the ban on prohibition with all the wonderful results it had. When will you figure it out the government knows best?
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:35 PM   #20
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What are you talking about??? They have put in place laws to prevent drugs from being used or sold. Now there are no drugs being sold or used. I am still perplexed that they did away with the ban on prohibition with all the wonderful results it had. When will you figure it out the government knows best?
Oops. Looks like Fox News has been lying to me again. My bad.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:40 PM   #21
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