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View Poll Results: Is discriminating against someone because of their sexual orientation wrong?
Yes, it is morally wrong 10 15.87%
Yes, it is morally and legally wrong 32 50.79%
No, its not morally wrong 0 0%
No, its not morally or legally wrong 10 15.87%
Yes, its legally wrong but morally right 0 0%
Yes, its morally wrong but still legal to discriminate 7 11.11%
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:51 PM  
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Is discriminating against someone because of their sexual orientation wrong?

I've never had a publicly gay friend, family member or co-worker. I have no experience with anyone being discriminated against for being gay. I can't understand the concept of male wanting to have sex with another male.

But, I don't have to understand it. Whatever two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is none of my business.

I believe that discriminating against someone only because of their sexual orientation is wrong and is/should be constitutionally protected.
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:59 PM   #76
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Cop out.
In your opinion.

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Same could be said for owning slaves in 1850.
Nope. That's a different category of thing. This is not a natural right.
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:01 PM   #77
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In a free country a person has a right to be a bigot.
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:02 PM   #78
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:47 PM   #79
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That's fine for yourself personally, but I wasn't referring to that. Since you are using it now, it's not how the laws on it work.
I took my cue from the context of the question. I don't have a problem with interpreting the question as I see fit because the poll was poorly worded. It has never been illegal to discriminate in your personal life. So I viewed it as in an official or business setting.
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:42 PM   #80
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You lost me at the very end.


When libs start talking about "constitutional protections", I get highly suspicious. Quit forcing your beliefs onto everyone else.
It's nothing new. I'm just saying in my uneducated legal opinion that the 14th amendment should have been applied all along to the discrimination against homosexuals.
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:45 PM   #81
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It's nothing new. I'm just saying in my uneducated legal opinion that the 14th amendment should have been applied all along to the discrimination against homosexuals.
It was actually written for black people. It was not written to destroy federalism.
It was promised by it's promoters that what you advocate would not happen.

Here's Madison from the Federalist Papers which were used to gain ratification by the states which created the Federal govt —NOT the other way around:
The Federalist No. 45
Alleged Danger From the Powers of the Union to the State Governments Considered
The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.
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It's nothing new. I'm just saying in my uneducated legal opinion that the 14th amendment should have been applied all along to the discrimination against homosexuals.
What percentage of people who wrote the 14th amendment and who ratified it do you think intended for their act to require the nation to expand marriage to cover same sex couples?

My guess is that it was a very small percentage, approaching zero. If you agree, is it your position that the constitution should be like a spiteful djinn that listens to your wish with the ear of a shrewd lawyer looking for any way possible to twist your words into something you don't intend? That seems absurd to me.
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It was actually written for black people. It was not written to destroy federalism.
The SCOTUS has ruled many times that marriage is a right as a citizen. The SCOTUS should be consistent. How can they rule that it is a right but not for homosexuals?
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The SCOTUS has ruled many times that marriage is a right as a citizen. The SCOTUS should be consistent. How can they rule that it is a right but not for homosexuals?
Link? Back that up.

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What percentage of people who wrote the 14th amendment and who ratified it do you think intended for their act to require the nation to expand marriage to cover same sex couples?

My guess is that it was a very small percentage, approaching zero.
You can make the same point linking porn to a free speech right written 200+ years ago. The 2nd amendment currently protecting 100 round clips for a right guaranteed in a time of muskets. etc.etc.
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Link? Back that up.

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Someone already listed the cases in the other thread. I think they have ruled 14 times that marriage is a right.
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Things that make you go hmmmmm....

Supreme Court seems wary of broad gay marriage ruling
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court signaled reluctance on Tuesday to rule broadly on the question of the right to marriage for gays and lesbians as the justices heard arguments on same-sex marriage for the first time...

Justice Anthony Kennedy, a potential swing vote, gave a clear indication of where he stood when he warned of the court entering "uncharted waters."...

...In making his antipathy to a broad ruling clear, Kennedy even raised the prospect of the court dismissing the case altogether,
You were saying BigRedChief?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...5.story?page=2
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Someone already listed the cases in the other thread. I think they have ruled 14 times that marriage is a right.
If it were a right, then there's no need for a license which is getting permission. Link them for me, I don't care to read that whole thread to find them.
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You can make the same point linking porn to a free speech right written 200+ years ago. The 2nd amendment currently protecting 100 round clips for a right guaranteed in a time of muskets. etc.etc.
Well, let's face it, the Framers were actually discussing political "speech." To my knowledge the SC hasn't even issued a sweeping opinion on what constitutes obscenity. I thought that was still left to community standards. Ev'r hear of the Miller Standard?
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