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Old 03-25-2013, 07:11 PM  
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"Conservative" Republicans for Taxing the Internet

“Anti-Tax” GOP: Republican Senate Members Support Internet Tax.

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While Republicans say they are for economic freedom, low taxes, and deregulation, the Senate passage of the Budget Resolution proves the opposite.

At 6:47 pm on Friday the roll-call was tallied for the “Internet Sales Tax” amendment (#656) — sponsored by Wyoming Republican Mike Enzi — revealing that it passed with the support of twenty-six Republicans (listed below).

Enzi’s amendment is essentially the “Marketplace Fairness Act” (S.336/H.R.684) in a different form.

In short, this amendment’s passage just goes to show how far big government “conservatives” are willing to go in broad daylight.

Do these “conservatives” really think that the Johnny Taxpayer wants to be surrender more of his dollars to government while shopping online — the last place to get the majority of goods tax-free? Do they think that states and businesses want more bureaucracy to deal with?

http://www.conservativeactionalerts....-internet-tax/

Fewer taxes are always good for individuals. It’s a simple concept. Think of it this way: Do you think any retail shop would ever stimulate sales by placing signs in their windows saying, “Today Only – Pay 15% More!” Absolutely not. But this is exactly what government wants to do through taxes — and businesses online will suffer for it.

While the Enzi’s internet tax initiative will likely die as an Amendment — it will get shot down in the House — it will probably pass the Senate under its original name: “the Marketplace Fairness Act.”
http://www.conservativeactionalerts....-internet-tax/
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:17 PM   #16
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It's not "taxing the internet," it's trying to implement a sales-tax to protect local business. Not saying I like it, just calling out the misleading thread title.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:34 PM   #17
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By whatever name it is called, more gubment is a good idea. I always send in extra with my taxes with a note attached: Spend it where you think it is best. Thinking about moving to Detroit.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:13 PM   #18
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This will be one of the few times I hope the House Republicans actually vote no on something.

I am firmly against any kind of taxes on internet sales.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:27 PM   #19
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This will be one of the few times I hope the House Republicans actually vote no on something.

I am firmly against any kind of taxes on internet sales.
Which is odd because I don't see a reason taxes shouldn't be imposed on internet sales.

It's like we're in the matrix or something.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:29 PM   #20
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:36 PM   #21
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Yup! At least those on the list voting for this. Some didn't.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:12 PM   #22
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Which is odd because I don't see a reason taxes shouldn't be imposed on internet sales.

It's like we're in the matrix or something.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:20 PM   #23
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I'm not sure why this keeps coming up, internet sites should follow the same rules as catalog sales, it is the EXACT same thing.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:33 PM   #24
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I'm not sure why this keeps coming up, internet sites should follow the same rules as catalog sales, it is the EXACT same thing.
It appears they are treated the same.

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http://www.netchoice.org/library/sal...th-vs-reality/

A group of the nation’s governors, state legislators and state tax administrators are asking the United States Congress to require catalog companies, online retailers and live television shopping networks to collect sales taxes from their customers, even if they live in states where the retailers have no operations. While all retailers must collect taxes on sales in a state where they have a physical presence, the Supreme Court has held that it would be a burden on interstate commerce to force retailers to collect and remit taxes for sales in states where they are not located.


Nevertheless, legislation has been proposed in each of the past seven Congresses that would reverse decades of history and legal precedent preventing out–of-state sales tax collection, and another bill is being circulated for cosponsors by Senator Mike Enzi (R-WY). It would impose on all states and all retailers the provisions of the now voluntary Streamlined Sales Tax Agreement (SSTA). SSTA proponents have touted this measure as a simplified, streamlined method for collecting sales tax. Unfortunately, the reality is far different – the SSTA promises to increase significantly the complexity and compliance burdens for interstate sellers.

Before Congress acts, let’s compare the MYTHS vs. REALITY of the Streamlined Sales Tax Agreement:


MYTH #1: Internet sales are tax-free.

REALITY: Internet sales are subject to tax, just as storefront, catalog and telephone order sales are subject to tax.

Internet sales already are subject to sales tax, just like catalog and telephone order sales. All retailers, whether online or on Main Street, are required to collect sales tax on goods delivered in any state where the retailer has a physical presence or “nexus.” That is why you pay sales tax on catalog or online orders from a company that owns and operates stores in your home state.

Consumers are obligated to pay a “use tax” on purchases even if the seller is not required to collect the sales tax.[1] States have complained for decades that few consumers pay use taxes on purchases from out-of-state sellers, even though nearly all business purchasers do pay use taxes for catalog, telephone or Internet purchases out-of-state. Nevertheless, most states have done little to educate consumers about their use tax obligation or to provide them with an easy mechanism for compliance. This suggests there may not be enough revenue involved for the states to invest time and resources in its recovery.
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It appears they are treated the same.
which is how I understood it, though it seems Amazon has cheated a bit on this. If you want to tax those companies, then do what you can to get them to create a 'nexus' in your state, period.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:56 PM   #26
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which is how I understood it, though it seems Amazon has cheated a bit on this. If you want to tax those companies, then do what you can to get them to create a 'nexus' in your state, period.
I agree.

I just don't agree with creating a new Federal law to allow states to start taxing out of state internet\catalog sales.

Also apparently I am supposed to be paying a MO use tax for everything I purchase over the Internet. yeah right
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I agree.

I just don't agree with creating a new Federal law to allow states to start taxing out of state internet\catalog sales.

Also apparently I am supposed to be paying a MO use tax for everything I purchase over the Internet. yeah right
Yeah, they have that line in KS too. I wonder how many people put anything more than ZERO in it.
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On-line companies argue that the tax will put them at a huge disadvantage competitively because of shipping costs. The fact the customer doesn't pay sales tax evens the boat with local retailers who charge tax but no shipping of costs course. At least on the surface I can appreciate that argument.
Local retailers have shipping costs as well. You just don't see it as a separate line item. It's built into the retail price of the product.
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Local retailers have shipping costs as well. You just don't see it as a separate line item. It's built into the retail price of the product.
Isn't it more like bulk shipping rather than per item though?
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