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Old 03-19-2013, 09:11 PM  
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Dad's photo of son with .22 on facebook brings the cops wearing tactical gear

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I am sure there are several 11-year-old boys who are terribly proficient at handling a gun.

But, given that I wouldn't trust an 11-year-old boy with a popsicle, I would just as well not be anywhere near them.

This, however, doesn't appear to have been the policy of the authorities in New Jersey. They were allegedly alarmed by a Facebook photo of Josh Moore, aged 11, holding a .22 rifle, and they allegedly wanted to get very near him.

The photo had been posted by his father, Shawn, to Facebook. It showed Josh, in his camouflage outfit and rather bright sneakers.

Shawn Moore told his story to a forum on the Delaware Open Carry Web site.

He said he received a text from his wife that police and alleged members of the Department of Youth and Family Services had paid their home a visit. It was, allegedly, not a social call.

Indeed, he posted a picture of police in what he describes as "tactical gear."

He says the authorities demanded to enter the house in Carneys Point, N.J., and check his guns. His lawyer, on a cell phone speakerphone, was privy to all the discussions.

Moore insisted that he wouldn't open the safe where his guns are kept-- as no warrant was allegedly presented to him -- and that a lady from the Department of Youth and Family Services refused to identify herself.

The Associated Press says that neither the department nor the police were prepared to comment on the alleged visitation and its purpose.

Moore said none of his visitors had actually seen the photo. He alleges they had merely received a phone call reporting its details.

The rifle was reportedly Josh Moore's 11th birthday gift.

Somehow, guns and Facebook have proved to constitute an often uncomfortable marriage of the medium and the message.

Recently, a Pennsylvania police chief was suspended after an especially fetching image of him, a comely lady friend, and a couple of guns appeared on the site.

The more we insist on exposing who we are to people we don't know, the more hullabaloo seems to inevitably develop.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:26 AM   #16
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I was proficient with a .22 when I was 7.

It didn't look like that, though.
Damn frazod, you got an earlier start than I did. That was about the time Dad bought me a BB gun, a Daisy “saddle rifle”. Looked like one of those .30/30’s from the spaghetti westerns that were on the 3 VHF channels we used to get back then.
I literally wore that thing out shooting it.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:31 AM   #17
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Authorities take calls about children very serious, as they should. I wonder what was actually told to them by the person who called it in. Their actions were over the top, but the real stupidity was their failure to see for themselves the photo that the person was referring to.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:53 AM   #18
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:57 AM   #19
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Authorities take calls about children very serious, as they should. I wonder what was actually told to them by the person who called it in. Their actions were over the top, but the real stupidity was their failure to see for themselves the photo that the person was referring to.
...which has led to children being taken away that should not have been taken away.
NJ is a tough place to be a gun owner.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:06 AM   #20
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...which has led to children being taken away that should not have been taken away.
NJ is a tough place to be a gun owner.
But, is it really right to be teaching kids that versus playing a sport, etc? I have never been hunting in my entire life because I don't need to. I fish, but if I'm not going to actually eat them, they get thrown back. I do think parents many times are irresponsible. But should our government worry about that picture, no. He gonna be the next Rsmbo?
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:15 AM   #21
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But, is it really right to be teaching kids that versus playing a sport, etc? I have never been hunting in my entire life because I don't need to. I fish, but if I'm not going to actually eat them, they get thrown back. I do think parents many times are irresponsible. But should our government worry about that picture, no. He gonna be the next Rsmbo?
It may be your idea of what is right on raising kids —others differ. It's not the state's business.Or your's.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:22 AM   #22
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I was proficient with a .22 when I was 7.

It didn't look like that, though.
I am in the same boat as you. My Step dad taught me how to handle a rifle at 7 and I was hunting squirels and rabbits at that age, and yes we ate both.
He also took me to a hunters safety class at 8 years old and I passed the test we had to take at the end. The .22 I had was no where near that rifle either. Mine was a lever action .22 like the cowboys used and I loved it. Still have it today and plan to teach my boy to shoot with it in a couple years.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:25 AM   #23
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But, is it really right to be teaching kids that versus playing a sport, etc? I have never been hunting in my entire life because I don't need to. I fish, but if I'm not going to actually eat them, they get thrown back. I do think parents many times are irresponsible. But should our government worry about that picture, no. He gonna be the next Rsmbo?
Good for you. Go raise your kid your way. In my opinion, it's perfectly fine to "be teaching kids that versus playing a sport".

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Old 03-20-2013, 08:57 AM   #24
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I am in the same boat as you. My Step dad taught me how to handle a rifle at 7 and I was hunting squirels and rabbits at that age, and yes we ate both.
He also took me to a hunters safety class at 8 years old and I passed the test we had to take at the end. The .22 I had was no where near that rifle either. Mine was a lever action .22 like the cowboys used and I loved it. Still have it today and plan to teach my boy to shoot with it in a couple years.
Dad handed me my first .22, a semi-automatic rifle (can't remember the make or model), at age 7. He pointed to a squirrel in the top of a cottonwood tree and told me to shoot it. I barely missed with the first shot, killed it with the second. Not bad for a little kid.

It always makes me happy when I go to the range and see fathers teaching their children how to shoot.
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Authorities take calls about children very serious, as they should. I wonder what was actually told to them by the person who called it in. Their actions were over the top, but the real stupidity was their failure to see for themselves the photo that the person was referring to.
The day after Thanksgiving a few years ago a Psycho Fighting friend gave me a call saying he had stuck his truck in the gravel bar below the east river bridge, and when I got their his truck was buried up to the frame. With considerable effort we got it out, which is a story all its own, but afterwards we were on the gravel bar BSing when a couple of deputy Sherriff’s show up on the river bank yelling at us to come over there. We look at each other and momentarily consider telling them, “No, you come over here” but thought that would just lead to more trouble since they were standing on the only path out of there.
After checking our ID’s they told us they were just checking on our safety because the call they got said there was a truck dangling off the bridge about ready to fall into the river, which was complete .
Point is people will greatly exaggerate the situation when they call 911, I assume to ensure they get a fast response to their call.
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But, is it really right to be teaching kids that versus playing a sport, etc? I have never been hunting in my entire life because I don't need to. I fish, but if I'm not going to actually eat them, they get thrown back. I do think parents many times are irresponsible. But should our government worry about that picture, no. He gonna be the next Rsmbo?
Better to learn how to safely handle/respect a firearm now than leave him uneducated for when he stumbles across one on his own later.
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:53 AM   #28
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The day after Thanksgiving a few years ago a Psycho Fighting friend gave me a call saying he had stuck his truck in the gravel bar below the east river bridge, and when I got their his truck was buried up to the frame. With considerable effort we got it out, which is a story all its own, but afterwards we were on the gravel bar BSing when a couple of deputy Sherriff’s show up on the river bank yelling at us to come over there. We look at each other and momentarily consider telling them, “No, you come over here” but thought that would just lead to more trouble since they were standing on the only path out of there.
After checking our ID’s they told us they were just checking on our safety because the call they got said there was a truck dangling off the bridge about ready to fall into the river, which was complete .
Point is people will greatly exaggerate the situation when they call 911, I assume to ensure they get a fast response to their call.
one night a farmer hears someone out by his barn....he calls the sheriff and reports it..."sorry sir, we have no one available, please stay inside and lock your doors"...a few minutes later the farmer calls back and says .."don't worry..i just shot him..."...within minutes five officers show up with guns drawn...unable to locate an intruder, the sheriff asks the man..."I thought you said you shot him?"..the farmer replies..."I thought you said no one was available"
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