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****Official 2013-14 Missouri Tiger Football Repository Thread****

We have two things to look forward to this year:

1) The potential beginning of the Maty Mauk Era. Mauk represents the best chance for this program to get back to a level of respectability after horrendous QB play cost us multiple games last year.

2) The last year of the Gary Pinkel era. Pinkel's entrenched cronyism won't play in a conference this competitive, especially if he couples his abysmal gameday coaching with lackadaisical, worst-in-conference recruiting. Pinkel was the formerly adequate meal that has now turned into a four pound bowel obstruction. It's time to jam a Fleet's enema up our collective asses.

Here is the schedule. We dodge Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas in the west and the Non-con is decidedly weaker than years past.

8/31: Murray State
9/7: Toledo
9/21: @ Indiana
9/28: Arkansas State
10/5:@ Vanderbilt
10/12: @ Georgia
10/19:Florida
10/26: South Carolina
11/2:Tennessee
11/9: @ Kentucky
11/23: @ Ole Miss
11/30: aTm

Looks like 6-6. Undefeated in non-con, 2-6 in league play.

I will eventually update the OP with a list of high profile in-state recruits that decide to go elsewhere after a half-assed attempt to gain their services. The inevitable cavalcade of *** rejects, skeezers, skanks, and scalliwags we get will fill out the ranks.


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Old 06-11-2013, 04:25 PM   #136
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That's too bad. Players that are intelligent and able to perform in the classroom as well as on the field are a rare commodity. As such, the development of such athletes should be encouraged. Not only to create better student athletes, increase university prestige, etc. but from a football/coaching perspective, having smarter players generally allows you to be more creative and expand your playbook/philosophies. Working with dumb brutes who can't understand how to properly perform sight adjusts as an example, is a poor route to go down. While not every player is going to be a genius, ensuring that they are working academically also instills/builds discipline and prevents less opportunities for bad things to happen.
I have nothing against academics I should have elaborated more of what I was trying to say, I'm a college graduate myself and no I don't want dumb athletes that always get into trouble, however I don't feel that has anything to do with improving the football teams play on the field in the present. mizzou is in a very bad situation right now athletically and academics isn't going to change that, in fact Mizzous high academic standards have hurt the athletic program more than its helped it. Face it most of the best talent are dummies because they only know football. How many of their top recruits have had to go to JUCO because they can't hack it academically due to the high standards ala Sheldon Richardson? He was a moron who couldn't keep his yap shut but guess what? He was the best defensive player on the team.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:17 PM   #137
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I have nothing against academics I should have elaborated more of what I was trying to say, I'm a college graduate myself and no I don't want dumb athletes that always get into trouble, however I don't feel that has anything to do with improving the football teams play on the field in the present. mizzou is in a very bad situation right now athletically and academics isn't going to change that, in fact Mizzous high academic standards have hurt the athletic program more than its helped it. Face it most of the best talent are dummies because they only know football. How many of their top recruits have had to go to JUCO because they can't hack it academically due to the high standards ala Sheldon Richardson? He was a moron who couldn't keep his yap shut but guess what? He was the best defensive player on the team.
I don't think Mizzou standards are really much of a roadblock for young recruits. The NCAA sets the admission standard for Div 1 football, not the school. The school can have a higher standard if it wants to, but I'm pretty sure Mizzou doesn't do that.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:03 PM   #138
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I don't think Mizzou standards are really much of a roadblock for young recruits. The NCAA sets the admission standard for Div 1 football, not the school. The school can have a higher standard if it wants to, but I'm pretty sure Mizzou doesn't do that.
My dad is an MU alum and was a former football/track player. He told me that a big reason MU's football team hit the pits in the 80's was due to some new female University President that MU had hired at that time. Supposedly she made the academic standards extremely difficult therefore making it hard to recruit good talent because a lot of the best athletes aren't too bright and they couldn't make the grades to get in. Going off what my dad said and what I've seen myself with several of the good MU JUCO recruits the last ten years that would be the case. Heck I remember my college advisor telling me my senior year that Mizzou,Baylor, and Colorado were hands down the most difficult Big 12 schools to get accepted into academically. I could be wrong but that whats its always seemed like to me. I do know they require a 21 score on the ACT as well, they probably make exceptions for scholarship players though.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:34 PM   #139
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Or maybe because Woody Widenhofer and Bob Stull were pretty shitty coaches...
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Or maybe because Woody Widenhofer and Bob Stull were pretty shitty coaches...
That didn't help either. You can also contribute the horrid facilities Mizzou had back then, it was God awful.
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My dad is an MU alum and was a former football/track player. He told me that a big reason MU's football team hit the pits in the 80's was due to some new female University President that MU had hired at that time. Supposedly she made the academic standards extremely difficult therefore making it hard to recruit good talent because a lot of the best athletes aren't too bright and they couldn't make the grades to get in. Going off what my dad said and what I've seen myself with several of the good MU JUCO recruits the last ten years that would be the case. Heck I remember my college advisor telling me my senior year that Mizzou,Baylor, and Colorado were hands down the most difficult Big 12 schools to get accepted into academically. I could be wrong but that whats its always seemed like to me. I do know they require a 21 score on the ACT as well, they probably make exceptions for scholarship players though.
You can take it back farther than that.

Missouri's biggest mistake was in hiring Frank Broyles instead of Bob Devaney, who wanted the job.

Devaney went to Nebraska and was dominant as college football started to take off. We know the rest. With no Devaney at Nebraska, there's no Osborne there, either.

My dad hates Babs Uehling, too, though. Her direction of the academic side - and refusal to seek or release investment to the facilities at Mizzou - really crippled not just football but also basically all other sports at Mizzou.
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You can take it back farther than that.

Missouri's biggest mistake was in hiring Frank Broyles instead of Bob Devaney, who wanted the job.

Devaney went to Nebraska and was dominant as college football started to take off. We know the rest. With no Devaney at Nebraska, there's no Osborne there, either.

My dad hates Babs Uehling, too, though. Her direction of the academic side - and refusal to seek or release investment to the facilities at Mizzou - really crippled not just football but also basically all other sports at Mizzou.
Bingo, told you guys, my dad is an MU alum, I had to believe him. They could have had Devaney? They really focked up, just wow. It could have been vice versa, ugh.
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Bingo, told you guys, my dad is an MU alum, I had to believe him. They could have had Devaney? They really focked up, just wow. It could have been vice versa, ugh.
Oh, and to top it off... I think Bill Snyder and Bob Stull were hired in the same year. Snider was a Iowa assistant from Missouri who SURELY would have taken that job over the worst job in college football had it been offered.

I don't think Snider was ever considered, but in hindsight...
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I think I have the cherry, wasn't Bud Wilkinson an assistant to Don Faurot who would go on to make Oklahoma a powerhouse?
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I think I have the cherry, wasn't Bud Wilkinson an assistant to Don Faurot who would go on to make Oklahoma a powerhouse?
Yes. But I can top that...

Wilkinson and Jim Tatum both learned the split-T (wishbone) offense that made Oklahoma a powerhouse from - guess who ...

Don Faurot. Who taught it to them while coaching Army teams during WWII. At the time, the split-T was a powerhouse that no one else really knew anything about it, and without video, it was much harder to pick up opposing offenses.
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I made it up, I think. I was in a bit of an altered state of consciousness a day or two ago, and it popped into my head...first chance I've had to use it.
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Yes. But I can top that...

Wilkinson and Jim Tatum both learned the split-T (wishbone) offense that made Oklahoma a powerhouse from - guess who ...

Don Faurot. Who taught it to them while coaching Army teams during WWII. At the time, the split-T was a powerhouse that no one else really knew anything about it, and without video, it was much harder to pick up opposing offenses.
There are some who believe that the Academic crowd still pretty much controls the actions of the University to it's detriment.
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