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Old 03-15-2013, 09:28 PM  
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And...Then Rand Paul Did Something Foolish

Rand Paul Introduces ‘Life at Conception Act’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...onception-act/
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul on Thursday introduced the “Life At Conception Act,” saying that the “right to life is guaranteed to all Americans.”

“I plan to ensure this is upheld,” the Republican senator added.

“Sen. Paul introduced S.583, a bill that would implement equal protection under the 14th Amendment for the right to life of each born and unborn human,” the senator’s office said, per a press release.

“This legislation does not amend or interpret the Constitution, but simply relies on the 14th Amendment, which specifically authorizes Congress to enforce its provisions,” his office adds.

Here is what Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The bill has 15 cosponsors (all Republican) including Sens. John Barrasso (Wyo.), John Boozman (Ark.), Richard Burr (N.C.), Daniel Coats (Ind.), Thomas Coburn (Okla.), Michael Enzi (Wyo.), Deb Fischer (Neb.), Charles “Chuck” Grassley (Iowa), John Hoeven (N.D.), James “Jim” Inhofe (Okla.), Mike Johanns (Neb.), Jerry Moran (Kan.), James Risch (Idaho), John Thune (S.D.), and Roger Wicker (Miss.)

“The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known — that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection,” Sen. Paul said.

“The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence and ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress,” he added.





Senator Rand PaulVerified account@SenRandPaul Introduced Life at Conception Act. The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans & I plan to ensure this is upheld.


http://www.paul.senate.gov/files/documents/LCA.pdf
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:53 AM   #46
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Private social services, absolutely. Government-provided social services, absolutely not.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:54 AM   #47
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You cannot deny that a fetus is a separate life than its mother. It has its own set of DNA and genes. It might require the mother to survive, but it is indeed a separate life. Science backs that up.
I've always said that children were parasites.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:55 AM   #48
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Private social services, absolutely. Government-provided social services, absolutely not.
How could we verify that private services would sufficiently support the influx of births from lower income families?
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:58 AM   #49
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How could we verify that private services would sufficiently support the influx of births from lower income families?
Were children dying in the streets prior to public social services?

My mother raised 2 children below the poverty line, with no child support, and no welfare. You're not going to find a bleeding heart here.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:59 AM   #50
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How could we verify that private services would sufficiently support the influx of births from lower income families?
If we start seeing kids turning up dead of malnutrition and exposure I'd be willing to rethink the plan.
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:06 PM   #51
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Can we agree that if it were murder by definition, that it wouldn't be legal?
At conception seems extreme.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:11 PM   #52
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There are more adoptions through private agencies each year than state run agencies. It is a very painful process to use a publically run adoption agency, and often the child is more than a year old before the adoption is actually complete.

You cannot deny that a fetus is a separate life than its mother. It has its own set of DNA and genes. It might require the mother to survive, but it is indeed a separate life. Science backs that up. I personally don't believe that a zygote is a human life, but at some point the unborn is a human life worthy of the same rights as any other human being. That point should not be chosen arbitrarily as it is now. The least arbitrary point you can pick is conception.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:13 PM   #53
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And where o where is TJ or BEP? They assured us that libertarians like Rand Paul don't want to be involved in this type of stuff.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:32 PM   #54
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And where o where is TJ or BEP? They assured us that libertarians like Rand Paul don't want to be involved in this type of stuff.
I for one am glad he's involved in it.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:47 PM   #55
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I for one am glad he's involved in it.
yeah the government dictating morality to its citizens always works out well.
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yeah the government dictating morality to its citizens always works out well.
Like it or not we ARE a nation of laws.
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Like it or not we ARE a nation of laws.
Then you'll take comfort in the knowledge that the law says abortion is legal.
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Then you'll take comfort in the knowledge that the law says murder is legal.
Not really.
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Like it or not we ARE a nation of laws.
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So if we passed a law stating all Brocks should be hung, would you still stick with it? Or would you rather take the better path and revert back to the pre Brock hanging laws?
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