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Evangelical church accused of ignoring sexual abuse, “pedophilia ring”

Sovereign Grace and Sovereign Grace Ministries (SGM) and Covenant Life Church (CLC) served with a lawsuit alleging clergy cover-ups of sexual abuse including molestation of children.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:32 AM   #16
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This can't be true. All I've been reading for the last few years is that it is the Catholic organization and traditions that were responsible for child molestation. That's why they must change with the times, etc., etc. No way child molestation occurs outside the Catholic Church. You must have your facts wrong.
Well, this one was of the reasons I decide to put this thread up. Because I have posted before that the percentage of such incidents and the cover-ups, in the RCC is not all that different from other denominations.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:42 AM   #17
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that is correct.

There are lots of "churches" and religions that follow practices that are not consistent with Biblical teachings. Unfortunately, all religion gets thrown in same group when stuff like this comes up.
This is my favorite christian go to line. Yeah they all got it wrong but me...

KC's favorite line. So not only is this minority world religion the right one, its only a subset of the religion that is the right one, the one I worship.

What an astounding coincidence!
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:54 AM   #18
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This can't be true. All I've been reading for the last few years is that it is the Catholic organization and traditions that were responsible for child molestation. That's why they must change with the times, etc., etc. No way child molestation occurs outside the Catholic Church. You must have your facts wrong.
Child abuse and sexual abuse are human problems. The fault I find with organizations of any kind is providing an environment that facilitates those problems. Assigning leadership roles to people who aren't qualified to lead is just one way that organizations do this. Establishing a culture of unquestioned authority is another. Promoting an ethical standard that is not rooted in any rational process would be a third.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:58 AM   #19
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Lots of company in hell with people who were trusted to keep people out.
Hmmm, just gave me self an idea for a social commentary cartoon, animation short or comedy skit.

Something along the lines of the sinners in hell ganging up on priests, ministers for failing to keep the sinners out of there.
I'll have to consult my CW major kid, for dialogue and writing while I do the visuals.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:00 AM   #20
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I guess this can ultimately be the problem with people in any position of power/influence - they just feel like they're above it all.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:01 AM   #21
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I guess this can ultimately be the problem with people in any position of power/influence - they just feel like they're above it all.
Wow, see we can agree on something Bowsie. I'll drink to that...just later.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:05 AM   #22
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Is there a point to this thread?
Yes! See my other post #16.

( I am just now working my backwards through this thread after being out and missed this post.)
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I guess this can ultimately be the problem with people in any position of power/influence - they just feel like they're above it all.
Yep you see it all the time in government and all other secular organizations.

National Academy of Sciences, NASA, All government branches, Local and City governments. LOADED with child rapists and sex offenders and those trying to cover it up.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:06 AM   #24
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Yep you see it all the time in government and all other secular organizations.

National Academy of Sciences, All government branches, Local and City governments. LOADED with child rapists and sex offenders and those trying to cover it up.
Yup, for once we agree.
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Yup, for once we agree.
I think he's being sarcastic. Particularly, since he had one glaring omission—school teachers. Yes, the ones even in our govt schools. That's a place with access to many children—not the areas he named which is mainly adults. I read with school teachers that it's a higher percent. I've read even as high as ten percent. They have a much more access to many more children though too.

Also, there was some sort of sex scandal at some national science place a few years ago too. But it was between adults. IIRC it tainted some study they did.
I'd have to go look for it.

Not to mention affairs with partners outside of marriage by govt officials, such as congress and...Bill Clinton. ( Who said Hillary had more affairs then him.)
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:14 AM   #27
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Yep you see it all the time in government and all other secular organizations.

National Academy of Sciences, NASA, All government branches, Local and City governments. LOADED with child rapists and sex offenders and those trying to cover it up.
So who are these sexual offenders?
  • Males and Females
  • Young Adults, Middle-Aged Adults, and Seniors
  • Upper Class, Middle Class, and Disadvantaged
  • All Races & Ethnicities
  • Vocationally Diverse
One child pornography sting operation by the U.S. Justice Department and Customs Postal Inspectors resulted in well over two hundred arrests. The occupations of those arrested was a virtual rainbow of American life, representing 44% of all occupations listed by the U.S. Department of Labor.



http://www.childluresprevention.com/...ch/profile.asp
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:15 AM   #28
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The Education Department's report comes on the heels of a separate report that reveals a 35 percent increase in complaints of sexual misconduct involving school employees in the first three months of 2012 over 2011.
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16 New York Teachers Accused Of Sexual Misconduct Still Teaching, City Struggles To Fire Them
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1409184.html
Yes some of what those 16 doesn't rise to what some other complaints have been. I am using the artilce for the 35% rise reported.
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So who are these sexual offenders?
  • Males and Females
  • Young Adults, Middle-Aged Adults, and Seniors
  • Upper Class, Middle Class, and Disadvantaged
  • All Races & Ethnicities
  • Vocationally Diverse
One child pornography sting operation by the U.S. Justice Department and Customs Postal Inspectors resulted in well over two hundred arrests. The occupations of those arrested was a virtual rainbow of American life, representing 44% of all occupations listed by the U.S. Department of Labor.



http://www.childluresprevention.com/...ch/profile.asp
Is there a date for that sting? Cause I read about one back around 2000 and it was other denominations, counselors, teachers or professional positions where there is a high degree of trust and access to children.

I also thought this was interesting in the same link:
Which age group is most often targeted by child molesters?
In the interviews I conducted, the majority of molesters cited a preference for children on the brink of puberty. This is the age of sexual awakening, making it easy for molesters to prey on the sexual curiosity and ignorance of youngsters. To quote one of the sexual offenders I interviewed, "Give me a kid who knows nothing about sex, and you've given me my next victim."
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