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Old 03-06-2013, 07:32 AM  
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Obama closes the White House tours that were run by VOLUNTEERS. He's blaming it on the Sequester

The White House has canceled tours until further notice, the White House Visitors Office confirmed, citing sequester cuts.

Tours will continue through Friday, March 8. All tours for March 9 and onward have been canceled and will not be rescheduled due to “staffing reductions resulting from sequestration,” the office says.
“We very much regret having to take this action, particularly during the popular Spring touring season,” the office’s statement reads.
Some Republicans are skeptical.

“They just jumped the sharquester,” said John Hart, a spokesman for Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.). Coburn has long highlighted ways the federal government could cut back on what he considers needless spending. But in this case, he’s opposed to the White House’s decision.
“It’s clearly a PR ploy,” Hart said. “They can tour the country on the taxpayer’s dime but can’t allow taxpayers to tour the White House? Seriously?”
Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), agreed. “This decision appears to be purely political in nature rather than being in the best interest of the American people,” he said in a letter to Obama.
The White House has been highlighting cuts from the sequester in order to put pressure on congressional Republicans to compromise on ending tax loopholes.
“We are going to manage it as best we can, try to minimize the impacts on American families, but it’s not the right way for us to go about deficit reduction,” President Obama said Monday.
Not every administration claim has held up. Our Factchecker dinged Education Secretary Arne Duncan for saying over the weekend that teachers are already being laid off thanks to the sequester, and Obama himself for saying janitors in the Capitol will get a pay cut.
House Republicans introduced a bill Monday that would avoid a government shutdown at the end of the month and shift some spending cuts while leaving in place the $85 billion spending reduction that went into effect March 1.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-to-sequester/
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:56 PM   #166
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Thats ****ing easy. You give on something, I give on something. We keep going until no one is happy with the agreement but its somewhere in the middle.

Republicans need to close tax loopholes. Dems need to support meaniful medicare, medicaid and spending reform. Its an easy formula, thats extremely hard politically.

The President needs to show some courage and publicly state that he's willing to put entitlements on the table for a grand bargain. Maybe then Republicans can have some cover to start talking about revenue.
Didn't they speak on (and give in on) Revenue in January? What entitlements were reviewed and reduced at that time? What information have you received that makes you think President Obama will act differently next time?

Your premise would make more sense if the President had a history of compromise. He doesn't.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:10 AM   #167
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So how much did Bush's 1,020 days of vacation cost the US tax payers? I mean if we are going to bitch about it, we might as well bitch about the largest sum of wasted money in this category right?

For the record that is almost 3 years of vacation while holding a position for only 8 years.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:22 AM   #168
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So how much did Bush's 1,020 days of vacation cost the US tax payers? I mean if we are going to bitch about it, we might as well bitch about the largest sum of wasted money in this category right?

For the record that is almost 3 years of vacation while holding a position for only 8 years.
When are we going to stop blaming the previous administration for the faults of the current one?

Did GWB cancel group tours of the White House while he was spending willy nilly? Your comparison is weak, at very best.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:49 AM   #169
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So how much did Bush's 1,020 days of vacation cost the US tax payers? I mean if we are going to bitch about it, we might as well bitch about the largest sum of wasted money in this category right?

For the record that is almost 3 years of vacation while holding a position for only 8 years.
Well that's a BS number but I'll indulge you.

Since you want to play this way, let's add up all of Moochy and Barry's vacation time since they very rarely take vacation together.

In four years, versus Bush's eight, even using your BS number, Barry and Moochy have taken more vacations, and have spent way more money. Moochy went to Spain, Africa, Hawaii, Martha's Vineyard actually with Barry but they took seperate planes , and Barry has been to quite a few places with Reggie.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:58 AM   #170
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:04 AM   #171
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When are we going to stop blaming the previous administration for the faults of the current one?
You know, actually that reaction by the Right is a calculated cop out created by Sean Limbeck and perpetuated by their followers. So please, you guys on the Right, spare us the fake indignation. It's pathetic. I, for one, have never bought it and am not about to buy it now.

The argument that the Cheney/Bush presidency inflicted near total devastation to this country is quite the valid one and cannot be dismissed so easily. It's much harder and more time consuming to rebuild than to destroy.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:38 AM   #172
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You know, actually that reaction by the Right is a calculated cop out created by Sean Limbeck and perpetuated by their followers. So please, you guys on the Right, spare us the fake indignation. It's pathetic. I, for one, have never bought it and am not about to buy it now.

The argument that the Cheney/Bush presidency inflicted near total devastation to this country is quite the valid one and cannot be dismissed so easily. It's much harder and more time consuming to rebuild than to destroy.
when does that rebuild start?
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:34 AM   #173
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You know, actually that reaction by the Right is a calculated cop out created by Sean Limbeck and perpetuated by their followers. So please, you guys on the Right, spare us the fake indignation. It's pathetic. I, for one, have never bought it and am not about to buy it now.

The argument that the Cheney/Bush presidency inflicted near total devastation to this country is quite the valid one and cannot be dismissed so easily. It's much harder and more time consuming to rebuild than to destroy.
The Bush administration certainly deserves blame for losing the people. If they hadn't done that, democrats probably wouldn't have taken control of Congress and the inevitable decline that followed might have been avoided.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:32 AM   #174
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Nah, the insecurity is all yours. I'm just trying to stop some small dogs yapping around my feet. Bigger dogs on the BB have never made an issue of this. I don't feel any need to "defend" anything. I know what I am and what I'm not. And I'm very satisfied with myself. But you guys turning every thread and discussion into something about me does get old. Ever since I have returned to the CP there has been many lame attempts in different threads about this which I have ignored.

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The Bush administration certainly deserves blame for losing the people.
Yep. Almost 4500 in Iraq.
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Yep. Almost 4500 in Iraq.
I bet you miss the death count parties since Obama took office, don't you?
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Are you insinuating that I'm mad about something?
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