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Old 03-05-2013, 08:18 PM  
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Dow Jones hits record all time high

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/busin...ets_03-05.html

Corporate profits at an all time high. Corporate profits up 117% under Obama.
http://www.drudge.com/news/163559/co...-all-time-high

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ma-policy.html
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:07 PM   #76
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For all I know, they don't exist. All I know is what I read or what I'm told or what my conscience tells me. But my conscience is silent when it comes to investment advice.
Well you sure as hell don't know what Traders are doing, as you liked to claim you did earlier, if you don't even understand the basics of options.

Do yourself a favor and read more books because you have a long way to go.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:08 PM   #77
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In your simple, little world, yes, Jensen, just go with that so your head doesn't explode over it.
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Definition of 'Contrarian'
An investment style that goes against prevailing market trends by buying assets that are performing poorly and then selling when they perform well.
Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/...#ixzz2MjHMdxRk
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:08 PM   #78
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It kind of makes me laugh how many people seem to really care about Hugo Chavez. Here's this miniscule figure in history, and people are celebrating like Stalin just died.
I agree, but are you lost?
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:09 PM   #79
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Why does it matter if I don't watch Bloomberg TV? Or read charts? Don't try to make this so complicated. People buy because they think there's a better future ahead. People sell because they are happy with a current profit or want to get out before it gets lower.

Right now, more people think there's a better future than those on the opposite end.
People buy because they think they will make money and people sell because they are losing money and don't want to lose more.......more times than not.


But using what you just said is people buy based on hope and sell when they think they have made enough money.

You couldn't be further from the truth. If that were the case people wouldn't have their ass handed to them with every market crash.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:09 PM   #80
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Well you sure as hell don't know what Traders are doing,. . . .
I can definitely tell that more traders are buying or wanting to buy than selling or wanting to sell right now.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:11 PM   #81
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People buy because they think they will make money and people sell because they are losing money and don't want to lose more.......more times than not.


But using what you just said is people buy based on hope and sell when they think they have made enough money.

You couldn't be further from the truth. If that were the case people wouldn't have their ass handed to them with every market crash.
A market crash, by definition, is getting your financial ass handed to you.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:13 PM   #82
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Again we don't want to argue with Investopedia.

so when a stock starts making a new high and is trading at a very high P\E ratio and all the investment houses come out and call it overpriced and throw sell recomendations on it but you still buy the stock then you aren't being a contrarian?

I'll have you know the founder of the Investor's Daily designed a trading strategy called "CAN SLIM" which made you a contrarian and had you buying stocks at highs when everyone else was calling a top. So you weren't buying lows or poorly perfomring but you were buying stocks that had run up and many were saying had over-performed.


But hey, we got you to set us all straight.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:15 PM   #83
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I can definitely tell that more traders are buying or wanting to buy than selling or wanting to sell right now.
And how can you tell that? What is that based on? Committment of Traders report? Advance\Decline Data? Up Vol\Dwn Vol ratio?
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:15 PM   #84
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Again we don't want to argue with Investopedia.

so when a stock starts making a new high and is trading at a very high P\E ratio and all the investment houses come out and call it overpriced and throw sell recomendations on it but you still buy the stock then you aren't being a contrarian?

I'll have you know the founder of the Investor's Daily designed a trading strategy called "CAN SLIM" which made you a contrarian and had you buying stocks at highs when everyone else was calling a top. So you weren't buying lows or poorly perfomring but you were buying stocks that had run up and many were saying had over-performed.


But hey, we got you to set us all straight.
Oh, cool. I don't know half of what you're saying, but I can guess about 95% is bullshit.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:16 PM   #85
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Again we don't want to argue with Investopedia.

They have a few falsehoods, as in false definitions.
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And how can you tell that? What is that based on? Committment of Traders report? Advance\Decline Data? Up Vol\Dwn Vol ratio?
I've never heard of any of those. Just the DJIA and the other popular indexes going up is all I'm basing my conclusion on.
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They have a few falsehoods, as in false definitions.
BEP calling out falsehoods
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Oh, cool. I don't know half of what you're saying, but I can guess about 95% is bullshit.
Don't be butthurt....
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They have a few falsehoods, as in false definitions.
Oh golly. I hope I didn't accidentally post one of those falsehoods.
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Don't be butthurt....
Not at all. I'm actually having a good time dipping into the fount of your financial wisdom. I know you've made quite a lot of money and have set yourself up for a great retirement.
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