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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:02 PM   #106
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With the developements of yesterday, the likely hood that they could take geno actually goes up, not down. It goes up because now andy reid has a qb that he can rely on this year, and perhaps he did like Geno Smith, but didnt think he would be ready to play right away. With Alex Smith now he has a guy that he can not only rely on as a starter, but also as a teach to Geno. I see Geno very much in the same ideal that Kaep was when he was drafted. Everyone knew that Kaep would need to sit, which made alex smith the perfect place holder for geno. Now geno will get at least the first season, (if drafted here of course) to sit and to learn. If alex smith gets hurt week 10 and geno comes in and stars, then alex smith will have ground hog day all over again. Either way, i do believe that within the next two years that geno would be ready to start.

I still believe though, that the first choice of Andy Reid and Dorsey will be to trade down. But if they cant, i can see andy taking Geno and figuring out the rest later. losing pick 34 in the grand scheme of things, isnt that big of a deal. Especially if it means you dont have to draft a qb in the first round for the next decade.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:23 PM   #107
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Funny/ironic sidenote:
Thumbing through Lindys draft analysis of Geno-

NFL comparison:

Alex Smith...with a more accurate deep ball. lol
We just traded for White Geno, now it is time to draft Black Alex.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:25 PM   #108
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With the developements of yesterday, the likely hood that they could take geno actually goes up, not down. It goes up because now andy reid has a qb that he can rely on this year, and perhaps he did like Geno Smith, but didnt think he would be ready to play right away. With Alex Smith now he has a guy that he can not only rely on as a starter, but also as a teach to Geno. I see Geno very much in the same ideal that Kaep was when he was drafted. Everyone knew that Kaep would need to sit, which made alex smith the perfect place holder for geno. Now geno will get at least the first season, (if drafted here of course) to sit and to learn. If alex smith gets hurt week 10 and geno comes in and stars, then alex smith will have ground hog day all over again. Either way, i do believe that within the next two years that geno would be ready to start.

I still believe though, that the first choice of Andy Reid and Dorsey will be to trade down. But if they cant, i can see andy taking Geno and figuring out the rest later. losing pick 34 in the grand scheme of things, isnt that big of a deal. Especially if it means you dont have to draft a qb in the first round for the next decade.
We've lost our second round pick for the better part of a decade (might as well have due to shitty drafting), what's losing it again on a starter
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:27 PM   #109
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We've lost our second round pick for the better part of a decade (might as well have due to shitty drafting), what's losing it again on a starter
true. at least you wont have to worry about drafting a dexter mccluster esque player this year.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:29 PM   #110
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they didnt trade 2 second rounders for alex to get geno sorry, its either joeckl, dee, or star
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:30 PM   #111
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The day we signed Alex I said there was a 50-50 chance we drafted Geno or another QB and everyone was up in arms and convinced it would he Joekel. My how quick people here change.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:32 PM   #112
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There is nothing worse than the casual NFL fan.
Yeah there is. The non-NFL fan who still tries to argue about the game with someone who knows what they're talking about. For instance...guy I work with kept arguing with me that Tim Tebow was the best QB in the NFL in the last decade. He knows nothing. He is just a bible thumper from frickin Denver and hopped on the Tebow bandwagon. He couldn't tell me one other player on their roster. But decided to argue with me anyway when I told him Tebow was dog shit and that Denver would toss him aside the second they were able to land a real QB. Whattya know....look what happened.

THAT is worse than a casual fan. Sorry...I just had to get that off my chest.
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they didnt trade 2 second rounders for alex to get geno sorry, its either joeckl, dee, or star
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:38 PM   #114
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He may be correct in that assessment though. Now that Reid & Dorsey got Alex Smith, they might have 0 interest in drafting a QB with that #1 pick. There's no way of telling until the draft, as I'm sure they'll play their cards close to their vest.
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Yeah there is. The non-NFL fan who still tries to argue about the game with someone who knows what they're talking about. For instance...guy I work with kept arguing with me that Tim Tebow was the best QB in the NFL in the last decade. He knows nothing. He is just a bible thumper from frickin Denver and hopped on the Tebow bandwagon. He couldn't tell me one other player on their roster. But decided to argue with me anyway when I told him Tebow was dog shit and that Denver would toss him aside the second they were able to land a real QB. Whattya know....look what happened.

THAT is worse than a casual fan. Sorry...I just had to get that off my chest.
lol, he has his opinion on the quarterback and you sound like a giant d-bag just talking about the topic itself... And its funny you call him a bible thumper but if those bible thumpers hate on whatever you believe or dont believe in and laugh at your for thinking you turn into a tree when you die you get all offended i think if i met u in RL id slap you in the face and then piss on you
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lol, he has his opinion on the quarterback and you sound like a giant d-bag just talking about the topic itself... And its funny you call him a bible thumper but if those bible thumpers hate on whatever you believe or dont believe in and laugh at your for thinking you turn into a tree when you die you get all offended i think if i met u in RL id slap you in the face and then piss on you
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lol, he has his opinion on the quarterback and you sound like a giant d-bag just talking about the topic itself... And its funny you call him a bible thumper but if those bible thumpers hate on whatever you believe or dont believe in and laugh at your for thinking you turn into a tree when you die you get all offended i think if i met u in RL id slap you in the face and then piss on you
Dude **** yourself. You don't know the guy I'm talking about. He comes up and starts arguments with me about football. I don't talk about it with him unless he antagonizes me. He doesn't watch ANY games. He didn't even watch their playoff game for ****s sake.
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Dude **** yourself. You don't know the guy I'm talking about. He comes up and starts arguments with me about football. I don't talk about it with him unless he antagonizes me. He doesn't watch ANY games. He didn't even watch their playoff game for ****s sake.
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