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Old 02-25-2013, 07:35 PM  
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Chiefs looking to Trade down

Chiefs | Looking to trade No. 1 pick?
Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:36:51 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs are seeking to move out from the No. 1 overall spot in the NFL Draft regardless if they acquire a quarterback via trade, according to multiple league executives.

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Old 02-26-2013, 10:55 AM   #121
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The Chiefs would love to trade down.

This is probably the worst year in a long time to have the #1 overall pick.
Totally par for the course re Chiefs fortunes.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:57 AM   #122
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And that makes zero sense. ***** had Brady and Dorsey had Rogers. You would think these two guys would value the QB position as being the top priority fod sure but neither of them seem to. Just throw anyone out there BS.
But both of them also got those elite QBs way under value. Their case is the exact opposite of the situation this year. You are arguing that Dorsey should get a QB OVER value.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:58 AM   #123
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Wrong.

Teams that trade out of the top spot get RAPED.

It's a stupid ****ing premise, period.

Just give them a chance! They're not Scott *****.

Well guess what? YES THEY ARE.
Let's just agree to disagree on this.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:59 AM   #124
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If he's the 3rd best prospect in the last 5 years (behind only Luck and RG3) there should be tons of teams and tons of talk about teams moving up for him.
There might be teams interested. But if they Chiefs intend to take him, we'll never hear about it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:00 AM   #125
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Don't laugh at ME on this. I am never an advocate of either philosophy being the gospel. I have always said, different years, different drafts dictate different strategy. Here's how I have always looked at it:

1- If you are an established team with no obvious holes ==> Draft BPA (maintenance mode)

2- If you are a totally starting from scratch team ==> Draft BPA

3- If you are a few positions away from being an established team ==> Draft for positions
1) If you have a starting QB, draft BPA.
2) If you don't have a starting QB, draft a QB.

That's it, end of story.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:00 AM   #126
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But both of them also got those elite QBs way under value. Their case is the exact opposite of the situation this year. You are arguing that Dorsey should get a QB OVER value.
What value?

Is he worth the #1 pick? Why yes, yes he is.

Take him and shut up about it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:04 AM   #127
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Don't laugh at ME on this. I am never an advocate of either philosophy being the gospel. I have always said, different years, different drafts dictate different strategy. Here's how I have always looked at it:

1- If you are an established team with no obvious holes ==> Draft BPA (maintenance mode)

2- If you are a totally starting from scratch team ==> Draft BPA

3- If you are a few positions away from being an established team ==> Draft for positions
All that goes to the wayside if you don't have a Franchise QB. If you have the 1st pick in the draft and you don't have the QB you indentify the best QB in the draft and draft him. This is what's killing me about Mayock. It's his philosophy but this year we should take a OT.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:05 AM   #128
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There might be teams interested. But if they Chiefs intend to take him, we'll never hear about it.
KC said they are open to talks about trading down. If Smith is one of the best prospects in years then there will be talk because all of those other QB hungry teams would want to get out the word that they tried or are trying to land him.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:05 AM   #129
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:15 AM   #130
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It's hard to view these guys to old prospects, cause we know the end product.
The difference is that I've been in the trenches for nearly a decade, every draft season, and I vividly recall most discussions.

2009 was all about whether we should take Sanchez. There was absolutely no discussion about Stafford because everybody knew the Lions would have to be crazy not to take him.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:17 AM   #131
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The difference is that I've been in the trenches for nearly a decade, every draft season, and I vividly recall most discussions.

2009 was all about whether we should take Sanchez. There was absolutely no discussion about Stafford because everybody knew the Lions would have to be crazy not to take him.
Then explain what Mayock, McShay and Kiper said in that quote?
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:17 AM   #132
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I have to ask. Where is Smiths deficiencies compared to Stafford? Besides a little arm strength what's the difference? IMO Stafford was a little over rated.
Stafford has the strongest arm in the league, almost certainly. He also had multiple years playing at a very good level against the toughest defenses the SEC had to offer. In his final year, he was extremely impressive.

Geno Smith has never been extremely impressive. He's very up and down, which hopefully our coaches could correct. He has extremely impressive tools, and he seems like a good guy, but his on the field product is much, much worse than Stafford's was, and against weaker defenses.

Edit: It's also worth noting that Geno was playing with multiple NFL caliber receivers. Tavon Austin is probably a first rounder. To my knowledge, Stafford did not have that.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:18 AM   #133
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The difference is that I've been in the trenches for nearly a decade, every draft season, and I vividly recall most discussions.

2009 was all about whether we should take Sanchez. There was absolutely no discussion about Stafford because everybody knew the Lions would have to be crazy not to take him.
WE all knew that they would take Stafford. Because we're not stupid.

The talking heads did the same thing they're doing now - exploring everybody other than Stafford, right up till the point that the Lions took him.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:19 AM   #134
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Funny. I remember the Lions having Curry and Sanchez in for visits, and the pundits talking up the Lions taking them at #1.

Like I said, it could have all been window dressing.
The Lions are going to have all the best players in if they're at #1. That's due dilligence.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:25 AM   #135
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Edit: It's also worth noting that Geno was playing with multiple NFL caliber receivers. Tavon Austin is probably a first rounder. To my knowledge, Stafford did not have that.
Stafford's final year of college....he had A.J. Green.
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