NFL Draft Would the following situation make you NOT freak out about not drafting Geno Smith? - Page 4

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 06:46 PM

Ok, let's imagine our coaches simply don't like Geno Smith and don't plan on drafting him... would you be ok with the following ....

Trade Round 4 pick for Alex Smith.
Trade #1 overall pick down to the 8-12 range in exchange for a 2013 Rnd 2 and 2014 Rnd 1
Take Dee Milliner or Kenny Vaccaro with that pick.
Take Tyler Wilson or Matt Barkley (or insert any QB other than Geno here) with our #2 pick.

Personally I would be ecstatic if we swung a deal like this.

So, I ask, would this be a situation that you wouldn't freak out about?

Bowser · 02-24-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

No one is asking you to BELIEVE in him or expect wins... just not to expect him to be worthless. ANd that is exactly what your over the top emotional responses about him have indicated. I get it, I am fed up as well... but let's give our new staff and whoever the next QB is... a chance to fail at least a LITTLE before we burn them at the stake.

You're correct with that. No argument at all. But how suprised are you going to be when we take Joeckel only to watch him be the next Mandarich, and see Geno go to the Raiders only to watch him ride us like a rented Corvette the next ten years?

It's what we've come to expect as Chiefs fans.

htismaqe · 02-24-2013, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief

No one is asking you to BELIEVE in him or expect wins... just not to expect him to be worthless. ANd that is exactly what your over the top emotional responses about him have indicated. I get it, I am fed up as well... but let's give our new staff and whoever the next QB is... a chance to fail at least a LITTLE before we burn them at the stake.

Well, I totally expect him to be worthless. To expect him to be otherwise is hopelessly naive.

EDIT: And no, I don't have any more good will to give them any more chances. I've suffer through watching this team for too long, waited for them to get the #1 pick for too long. I am ****ing fed up with it. They either do what all the other successful teams do or I am getting off the train. I am not rooting for a team that has no interest in winning.

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

You're correct with that. No argument at all. But how suprised are you going to be when we take Joeckel only to watch him be the next Mandarich, and see Geno go to the Raiders only to watch him ride us like a rented Corvette the next ten years?

It's what we've come to expect as Chiefs fans.

We better not draft that overrated Aggie! We need to just wait and draft Taylor Lewan in 2014! DUH!

AussieChiefsFan · 02-24-2013, 08:13 PM

Id want more for our #1

KC Tattoo · 02-24-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Cassel was BARELY decent with Weis and a creampuff schedule. Smith was far better with Harbaugh. If you think Reid is equivalent to Harbaugh as an offensive coach and QB developer.. then you would expect Smith to continue to progress (if healthy). Again, I don't want to get sucked into being a defender of Alex Smith... I just would like us to return to some semblance of sanity for a bit.

Sanity you want sanity well that would be opposite of insanity

Einstein's Definition

Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

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DenverChief · 02-24-2013, 08:16 PM

If we trade for Smith and pick Joeckel with the #1 and get EJ Manuel with our #34...but after today I'm not sure he will fall to the second round

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Sanity you want sanity well that would be opposite of insanity

Einstein's Definition

Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

Using an incorrectly attributed aphorism is not the best way to make a point. Einstein never said anything of the sort. (And though I think Planck was the greater genius I wouldn't slander Einstein so much as to put such trite nonsense in his mouth.)

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Id want more for our #1

To trade down 10 spots you would want more than a probable top 15 pick in 2014 AND a top 12 2nd rounder in 2013? What the hell else do you want??? a 3rd? Hookers and blow?

MahiMike · 02-24-2013, 08:23 PM

Yes! Thanks for explaining it much better than I've been doing. 2 choices here are:

1) Draft Geno. FTW!
2) Get Alex Smith, top CB And Barkley/Glennon

HotCarl · 02-24-2013, 08:32 PM

It's sad that after trading back, taking a corner to replace the talented young one ***** let walk for nothing might be the right move, but it might be the right move.

htismaqe · 02-24-2013, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Yes! Thanks for explaining it much better than I've been doing. 2 choices here are:

1) Draft Geno. FTW!
2) Get Alex Smith, top CB And Barkley/Glennon

Barkley isn't getting past the Cardinals and Glennon is being targeted by the Bills.

They won't be there in the 2nd round.

Bowser · 02-24-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Barkley isn't getting past the Cardinals and Glennon is being targeted by the Bills.

They won't be there in the 2nd round.

Any believable chance that Nassib goes to Buffalo to maybe sit and learn behind Alex Smith? I ask considering who Buffalo's new coach is....

**keg in kc** · 02-24-2013, 08:36 PM

Two things:

Alex Smith would be a terrible trade under any circumstances.

If no QB is worth the #1 pick, nobody is going to trade up to acquire the #1 pick. None of the other players at the top of this draft are far enough separated from the 2nd tier players at their position to warrant a cost of multiple picks.

And probably one more thing:

There won't be a QB worth a damn sitting there at 34.

htismaqe · 02-24-2013, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

Any believable chance that Nassib goes to Buffalo to maybe sit and learn behind Alex Smith? I ask considering who Buffalo's new coach is....

Buffalo's GM has a girl crush on Glennon's arm.

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Two things:

Alex Smith would be a terrible trade under any circumstances.

If no QB is worth the #1 pick, nobody is going to trade up to acquire the #1 pick. None of the other players at the top of this draft are far enough separated from the 2nd tier players at their position to warrant a cost of multiple picks.

And probably one more thing:

There won't be a QB worth a damn sitting there at 34.

Three things...

1)Saying that NOW about Smith is retarded. Maybe end up true but come on.

2)Yep, I doubt we will find a trading partner, the top of this draft RIGHT now doesn't look great.

3)Saying that there DEFINITELY won't be a QB at 34 is more retarded than your first statement.

I'm not against Geno in any way, but I'm also not ready to go overboard reactionary about it.

View Poll Results: Would the following situation make you NOT freak out about not drafting Geno Smith?
Yes, I'd be very cool with this.	18	42.86%
NO NO NO!!!! I want us to draft Geno with ALL OUR PICKS!	7	16.67%
Meh, I don't like it but I wouldn't freak out.	6	14.29%
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02-24-2013, 06:46 PM
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $1673911	Would the following situation make you NOT freak out about not drafting Geno Smith? Ok, let's imagine our coaches simply don't like Geno Smith and don't plan on drafting him... would you be ok with the following .... Trade Round 4 pick for Alex Smith. Trade #1 overall pick down to the 8-12 range in exchange for a 2013 Rnd 2 and 2014 Rnd 1 Take Dee Milliner or Kenny Vaccaro with that pick. Take Tyler Wilson or Matt Barkley (or insert any QB other than Geno here) with our #2 pick. Personally I would be ecstatic if we swung a deal like this. So, I ask, would this be a situation that you wouldn't freak out about?
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MahiMike Good Luck Andy! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $60584	Yes! Thanks for explaining it much better than I've been doing. 2 choices here are: 1) Draft Geno. FTW! 2) Get Alex Smith, top CB And Barkley/Glennon __________________ Relax. We'll re-sign Bowe and Albert then draft Milliner. We'll be top 10 in offense and defense...someday.
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HotCarl Drafting Pro Bowlers Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $4036	It's sad that after trading back, taking a corner to replace the talented young one ***** let walk for nothing might be the right move, but it might be the right move.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $326248	Two things: Alex Smith would be a terrible trade under any circumstances. If no QB is worth the #1 pick, nobody is going to trade up to acquire the #1 pick. None of the other players at the top of this draft are far enough separated from the 2nd tier players at their position to warrant a cost of multiple picks. And probably one more thing: There won't be a QB worth a damn sitting there at 34.
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