NFL Draft Would the following situation make you NOT freak out about not drafting Geno Smith? - Page 2

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 06:46 PM

Ok, let's imagine our coaches simply don't like Geno Smith and don't plan on drafting him... would you be ok with the following ....

Trade Round 4 pick for Alex Smith.
Trade #1 overall pick down to the 8-12 range in exchange for a 2013 Rnd 2 and 2014 Rnd 1
Take Dee Milliner or Kenny Vaccaro with that pick.
Take Tyler Wilson or Matt Barkley (or insert any QB other than Geno here) with our #2 pick.

Personally I would be ecstatic if we swung a deal like this.

So, I ask, would this be a situation that you wouldn't freak out about?

**Reaper16** · 02-24-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Only Matt Barkley.

Ask me if there's a remote chance that Barkley is available at 2, though.

My thoughts exactly.

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

This draft has tons of players that would be good in the 8-12 range. A lot of those players will get drafted into the late 20s in the first round. Absolute ****ing steals.

OK OK OK, let's Madden this bitch up...

we trade our #1 overall for a pick in the 8-12 range and a Rnd 2 AND a 2014 Rnd 1 We then trade that 2014 Rnd 1 pick to swap our top Rnd 2 pick with a Rnd 1 20-25 pick!

BAM!

Ok, now that may be just a bit ridiculous.

BTW I do agree with you, should be some serious mid to late Rnd 1 value

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I didn't want Joe Montana & I don't want Alex Smith I don't care how dumb I sound it's been 30 years of passing on a QB in the first round. I want a first round QBotf to have hope for the next 10+ years that we can have a window of opportunity to win Super Bowls.

I WANT us to draft a first round superstar QB as well... but if the ****ING GUY ISN'T THERE then you don't simply waste the pick. I like Geno Smith at #1 more than any other player even if I'm not sold that he is a clear cut #1 overall pick... but I am not going to act like an idiot if I don't get my way.

Since when did CP become the stupid Chiefs BBS? Didn't we used to be the smart one?

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Only Chiefs fans would consider Montana and Green as successes.

Most fans count playoff wins and Lombardi trophies. We define "success" like the Browns and Lions.

I think you saw the point I was making though?

The point was to show how ridiculously stupid it is to say that Alex Smith (if he even comes here) is a failure and "more of the same" before he plays a down. Especially if we still take a QB early in the draft.

NJChiefsFan · 02-24-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

OR he represents every retread success... Dawson, Green, Montana... See how stupid that last statement looks? Yeah, that's exactly how your knee jerk reactions look. I understand your frustration, but don't let it make you dumb.

It's beyond stupid to judge a guy like Smith before he even has a chance to play a down here. And to be honest, Smith for a 4th rounder is a damn good deal if it plays out that way.

Montana and Green could have been successes. They weren't though. I picked the first option, although I don't think the QB will be there in the 2nd. In your scenario though I would be a lot happier than I am tonight.

KC Tattoo · 02-24-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I WANT us to draft a first round superstar QB as well... but if the ****ING GUY ISN'T THERE then you don't simply waste the pick. I like Geno Smith at #1 more than any other player even if I'm not sold that he is a clear cut #1 overall pick... but I am not going to act like an idiot if I don't get my way.

Since when did CP become the stupid Chiefs BBS? Didn't we used to be the smart one?

Taking a chance on a kid is part of the thrill and fun of it all. The risk and reward is what I want to take the risk and take a chance on the best QB prospect comming out and have hope for a change of direction.

htismaqe · 02-24-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I think you saw the point I was making though?

The point was to show how ridiculously stupid it is to say that Alex Smith (if he even comes here) is a failure and "more of the same" before he plays a down. Especially if we still take a QB early in the draft.

It's not stupid at all.

If you take 4 rocks and throw them at a window, breaking the glass, is it reasonable to assume that the window will suddenly withstand the 5th rock and remain unbroken?

We've seen this before. Several times even.

Alex Smith doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Setsuna · 02-24-2013, 07:24 PM

I'm going to say no because waiting for Alex Smith's contract to be up will make all of the exceptional talent on the team that much older and worse for the wear. So Gaz option for me.

KC Tattoo · 02-24-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Taking a chance on a kid is part of the thrill and fun of it all. The risk and reward is what I want to take the risk and take a chance on the best QB prospect comming out and have hope for a change of direction.

Maybe the reward could be 10+ years of great QB play with Super Bowl and crushing the division who the **** knows? I'd like to take that chance to find out with a QB of our own from the draft instead of some other teams reject that we have filled this team last 30years with.

Stupid Blackledge curse just wont let us take another QBotf in the first round. Hope we break the curse with Geno Smith.

**patteeu** · 02-24-2013, 07:30 PM

Yes, that would be great.

Bowser · 02-24-2013, 07:30 PM

There's no lipstick fit for this turd of a situation.

FRCDFED · 02-24-2013, 07:34 PM

The only thing I would change is going BPA in every round.

Molitoth · 02-24-2013, 07:37 PM

Id still be pissed passing over geno, but i woulnt freak out if we could get milliner and Barkley, but it isn't going to happen.

**AustinChief** · 02-24-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's not stupid at all.

If you take 4 rocks and throw them at a window, breaking the glass, is it reasonable to assume that the window will suddenly withstand the 5th rock and remain unbroken?

We've seen this before. Several times even.

Alex Smith doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. I am not going to say that Smith IS going to be good (if he even comes here).. but to say he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt is incredibly stupid. YOU are far too smart for idiotic statements like this. Smith had absolute dogshit for coaching his entire pro career until Harbaugh showed up. Under Harbaugh he has been a solid, far above average QB.

KC Tattoo · 02-24-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. I am not going to say that Smith IS going to be good (if he even comes here).. but to say he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt is incredibly stupid. YOU are far too smart for idiotic statements like this. Smith had absolute dogshit for coaching his entire pro career until Harbaugh showed up. Under Harbaugh he has been a solid, far above average QB.

I would expect with Alex Smith comming here he would have to prove himself right away and will start to press his throws and he will throw more INTs even with Reid as coach. Andy Reid wants to throw a ton of balls in this offense. That is not what Alex Smith is going be good at he counts on playaction and the running game to be successful.

Alex Smith is game manager not game winner.

View Poll Results: Would the following situation make you NOT freak out about not drafting Geno Smith?
Yes, I'd be very cool with this.	18	42.86%
NO NO NO!!!! I want us to draft Geno with ALL OUR PICKS!	7	16.67%
Meh, I don't like it but I wouldn't freak out.	6	14.29%
Stick your hypothetical up your Gaz!	11	26.19%
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02-24-2013, 06:46 PM
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $1673611	Would the following situation make you NOT freak out about not drafting Geno Smith? Ok, let's imagine our coaches simply don't like Geno Smith and don't plan on drafting him... would you be ok with the following .... Trade Round 4 pick for Alex Smith. Trade #1 overall pick down to the 8-12 range in exchange for a 2013 Rnd 2 and 2014 Rnd 1 Take Dee Milliner or Kenny Vaccaro with that pick. Take Tyler Wilson or Matt Barkley (or insert any QB other than Geno here) with our #2 pick. Personally I would be ecstatic if we swung a deal like this. So, I ask, would this be a situation that you wouldn't freak out about?
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02-24-2013, 07:24 PM	#23
Setsuna Certified BAMF Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Gator Country Casino cash: $125119	I'm going to say no because waiting for Alex Smith's contract to be up will make all of the exceptional talent on the team that much older and worse for the wear. So Gaz option for me. __________________
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02-24-2013, 07:30 PM	#25
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $416119	Yes, that would be great. __________________ "After voters re-elected an administration that added five trillion dollars to the nation’s debt, left 23 million Americans unemployed, surrendered Iraq to America’s enemy Iran, and enabled the Muslim Brotherhood to gain control of the largest country in the Middle East, the one lesson Republicans should agree on is that elections are driven by emotions, not reason." - David Horowitz
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02-24-2013, 07:30 PM	#26
Bowser What's Clark gonna do, Cotton? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Transition Casino cash: $50964734	There's no lipstick fit for this turd of a situation.
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02-24-2013, 07:34 PM	#27
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $8587	The only thing I would change is going BPA in every round.
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02-24-2013, 07:37 PM	#28
Molitoth Chiefs Rubberneck Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $83862	Id still be pissed passing over geno, but i woulnt freak out if we could get milliner and Barkley, but it isn't going to happen.
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