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Old 02-24-2013, 02:36 PM  
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Better Than Geno

Making the decision to draft Geno Smith means you probably have to ask yourself two questions.

Initially, we ask ourselves whether Geno Smith is the best player in this draft.

If you believe that he is, that's on you and the Yellow Submarine you came in on.

For the rest of us (which I think has to be the vast majority), the answer's no.

So the two step question:

1. Which players are better than Geno Smith in this draft?

and

2. Are you comfortable passing over them for Geno Smith?

Now, to me, this is the comprehensive list of players I think are better than Geno, everything being equal (including positional value):

1. OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. DE/OLB Bjoern Werner, Florida State
3. DE/OLB Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
4. DE/DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
5. DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
6. OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
7. CB DeMarcus Milliner, Alabama
8. OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
9. DT Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State
10. OG Chance Warmack, Alabama
11. CB Johnathan Banks, Mississippi State
12. DE/OLB Dion Jordan, Oregon
13. S Kenny Vaccaro, Texas

(Incidentally, of course, that's my big board.)

Are you comfortable passing over this much talent for Geno Smith? Any one player on this list could be a Chief. There is no obstruction between them and our roster.

I think that's a tall order for Geno to have to overcome. The argument of reaching for a QB over Hankins and Lane Johnson is tough enough. You're also asking the Chiefs ignore the very best this year has to offer in elite talent like Joeckel and Lotulelei (and players who are likely to end up as choice favorites of any number of coaches, like Sheldon Richardson).
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:00 PM   #76
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If Albert isn't re-signed, then you pick Joeckel without thinking twice and maybe Barkley Wilson or Bray in the 2nd
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:01 PM   #77
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If Albert isn't re-signed, then you pick Joeckel without thinking twice and maybe Barkley Wilson or Bray in the 2nd
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:41 PM   #78
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Stop trolling. It doesnt work when we know you are a opposing fans
Not trolling, just posting facts. I agree that QB is the most important part of a team, but around here it's getting to the point where I think people honestly believe that the rest of the team doesn't matter. I read a post recently where someone stated that defense doesn't matter at all.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:44 PM   #79
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Here's a list of the last 20 Super Bowl winning quarterbacks:

Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre
Super Bowl 32. John Elway
Super Bowl 33. John Elway
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco

17 out of 20 were elite quarterbacks, and Flacco certainly played like one the entire postseason. You don't have to have the passing leader, but you have to have an elite quarterback.
Back when Brady won 3 SBs in 4 years, he threw for less than 3500 yards per year. Since then, he's been throwing for more than 4400 yards per year, and has no more rings to show for it. Coincidentally, the Patriots used to have a really good defense.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:19 AM   #80
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Not trolling, just posting facts. I agree that QB is the most important part of a team, but around here it's getting to the point where I think people honestly believe that the rest of the team doesn't matter. I read a post recently where someone stated that defense doesn't matter at all.
When you haven't had a franchise QB in 40 ****ing years, the rest of the team DOESN'T matter.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:13 AM   #81
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When you haven't had a franchise QB in 40 ****ing years, the rest of the team DOESN'T matter.
I agree that QB is the most important piece, and I agree that the Chiefs are in the perfect position to grab a potentially great one. I agree that no other move makes as much sense or will lead to as much improvement as drafting Geno. However, Geno will not fix all that is wrong with the Chiefs.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:33 AM   #82
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However, Geno will not fix all that is wrong with the Chiefs.
You're absolutely right.

And nobody has ever suggested otherwise.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:03 AM   #83
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Franchise QB is a must...he doesn't have to be the #1 QB in the land, but he does need to be really, really good. I wouldn't be upset if KC got Alex Smith, and they drafted Geno. You hedge your bets. Geno may not be ready on day one. Alex isn't elite, but he can be very effective in a West Coast style offense.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:37 PM   #84
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Franchise QB is a must...he doesn't have to be the #1 QB in the land, but he does need to be really, really good. I wouldn't be upset if KC got Alex Smith, and they drafted Geno. You hedge your bets. Geno may not be ready on day one. Alex isn't elite, but he can be very effective in a West Coast style offense.
It isn't happening. According to all reports, they're committing to Alex Smith long term.

He IS the franchise QB, whether he's good enough to be or not.
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