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Old 02-15-2013, 08:21 AM  
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1st round QBs vs 2nd round QBs: a 20 year comparison

1st round QBs.

Out of 52 QBs: 16 Pro Browlers, 20 with winning records, 13 Super Bowl appearances, 7 Super Bowl rings. 17 with at least 100 TD passes.

2nd round QBs

Out of 22 QBs: 3 Pro Bowlers, 8 with winning records, 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl ring. 2 with at least 100 TD passes.

Note: Five of the "winners" from the second round were Colin Kapernick, Kordell Stewart, Shaun King, Quincy Carter and Todd Collins.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:10 PM   #61
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Good lawd! I knew he was a backup... but a backup TE?!?!?
To be fair, he was actually a backup QB. But IIRC, his only real playing time came at the TE position. Could be wrong, but that is what I seem to remember.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:10 PM   #62
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You mean other than us beating the Steelers in the playoffs with Garrard and almost beating the Patriots to go to the AFC championship game for the third time?
Last time I checked......Superbowls are the only things that matter. How many of those do you have again?
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:10 PM   #63
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You mean other than us beating the Steelers in the playoffs with Garrard and almost beating the Patriots to go to the AFC championship game for the third time?
No one here gives a $3it about ALMOST...
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:14 PM   #64
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Last time I checked......Superbowls are the only things that matter. How many of those do you have again?
In the last 40 years? The same amount as the Chiefs!

A ****ing Chiefs fans talking Super Bowl superiority with one of the youngest teams in the league lol
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:17 PM   #65
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In the last 40 years? The same amount as the Chiefs!

A ****ing Chiefs fans talking Super Bowl superiority with one of the youngest teams in the league lol
I never mentioned the Chiefs douchebag.

Show me where that "almost" column is next to the wins and losses column.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:20 PM   #66
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Last 20 Super Bowls

14 - 1st round QB
1 - Drew Brees, pick #32
3 - Tom Brady, 6th round
2 - FA QBs Dilfer and Johnson backed by elite defenses
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:32 PM   #67
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In the last 20 SBs:

14 were won by a 1st round QB
8 of them were still playing for the team that drafted them

9 were lost by a first round QB
8 of them were still playing for the team that drafted them

7 1st round QBs have made it to the SB on a team other than the one that drafted them, all but 1 (Kerry Collins) won. He happened to be playing another 1st round QB on his second team.

In light of this, I am predicting a Super Bowl win for the Broncos.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:36 PM   #68
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Last 20 Super Bowls

14 - 1st round QB
1 - Drew Brees, pick #32
3 - Tom Brady, 6th round
2 - FA QBs Dilfer and Johnson backed by elite defenses
Dilfer was a 1st rounder. Favre wasn't.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:38 PM   #69
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Yes but the Packers acquired him with a 1st round pick. It's basically the same thing.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:40 PM   #70
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Yes but the Packers acquired him with a 1st round pick. It's basically the same thing.
A year later. It doesn't make him a 1st round pick.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:48 PM   #71
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It's the same ****ing ballpark.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:54 PM   #72
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In the last 20 SBs:

14 were won by a 1st round QB
8 of them were still playing for the team that drafted them

9 were lost by a first round QB
8 of them were still playing for the team that drafted them

7 1st round QBs have made it to the SB on a team other than the one that drafted them, all but 1 (Kerry Collins) won. He happened to be playing another 1st round QB on his second team.

In light of this, I am predicting a Super Bowl win for the Broncos.
So youre going on record that the finish with a 12-4 regular season record, not 13-3?
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It's the same ****ing ballpark.
Isn't this exactly what you're trying to argue against? The #34 pick is right in the same ballpark as a first round pick, so why not just take a QB there?
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:55 PM   #74
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So youre going on record that the finish with a 12-4 regular season record, not 13-3?
I would certainly feel much more comfortable with that, yes.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:57 PM   #75
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I would certainly feel much more comfortable with that, yes.
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