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Old 02-14-2013, 10:24 PM  
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A little something for the nutjobs - all that ammo

Homeland Security and its cache of bullets
By ALICIA A. CALDWELL | Associated Press 10 hrs ago

WASHINGTON (AP) Online rumors about a big government munitions purchase are true, sort of.

The Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them roughly the equivalent of five bullets for every person in the United States for law enforcement agents in training and on duty.

Published federal notices about the ammo buy have agitated conspiracy theorists since the fall. That's when conservative radio host Alex Jones spoke of an "arms race against the American people" and said the government was "gearing up for total collapse, they're gearing up for huge wars."

The government's explanation is much less sinister.

Federal solicitations to buy the bullets are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga . The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.

Dixon said one of the contracts would allow Homeland Security to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years for its training facilities. The rounds are used for basic and advanced law enforcement training for federal law enforcement agencies under the department's umbrella. The facilities also offer firearms training to tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers. More than 90 federal agencies and 70,000 agents and officers used the department's training center last year.

The rest of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition would be purchased by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal government's second largest criminal investigative agency.

ICE's ammunition requests in the last year included:

450 million rounds of .40-caliber duty ammunition

40 million rounds of rifle ammunition a year for as many as five years, for a total bullet-buy of 200 million rounds

176,000 rifle rounds on a separate contract

25,000 blank rounds

The Homeland Security ammo buy is not the first time the government's bullets purchases have sparked concerns on the Internet. The same thing happened last year when the Social Security Administration posted a notice that it was buying 174,000 hollow point bullets.

Jonathan L. Lasher, the agency's assistant inspector general for external relations, said those bullets were for the Social Security inspector general's office, which has about 295 agents who investigate Social Security fraud and other crimes.

Jones the talk-show host did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

http://news.yahoo.com/homeland-secur...190840538.html
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:20 PM   #136
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Yeah, that's it. How about logic and common sense? You refuse to articulate one thing to back up your assertions other than something along the lines of its just how you feel.

You've shit yourself over ammo when you have no idea or even an opinion on what is "normal." Anyone not sharing your completely unsubstantiated intuition is "indoctrinated." Most kooks can at least point to SOMETHING to back up their rants. You're an embarassment to kooks.
I gave you the average consumption the USA military used during Iraq. What better comparison do you want. JFC!
Its common knowledge that the bazillion rounds of ammo bought by DHS are banned by NATO
It is not common practice for any agency to fly around cities with men hanging out the side doors of helicopters shooting blanks & scaring civilians,Schools were put into lock down. It was IMO an answer to many Sheriffs running off at the mouth 3 weeks ago about how they wont enforce any anti gun ban.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:25 PM   #137
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How about the bullshit cover story you started this thread with, you stupid ****? You can't see that for what it is and then have the nerve to talk to anybody about logic and common sense? Holy shit.

There are links to stories about this all over the forum - I'm not here to hold your ****ing hand and point them out to you because we both know you've already seen them, Direckshun. You just ignore them or dismiss them because they don't mesh 100% with your blind devotion to your One True Government.
What exactly makes you say it is bullshit?

There are also stories all over this forum about how Sandy Hook was a govt operation, complete with actors playing grieving parents and "dead" students.
You on board with that one as well?
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:25 PM   #138
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Link?

You know, I can almost pinpoint which posts of yours were written during one of your meth binges. Some days, your posts are semi-lucid and occasionally funny, even some of the ones that try to crack on me. But most of the time, they are like this one.
Ya its meth/ bath-salt boy
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:28 PM   #139
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I gave you the average consumption the USA military used during Iraq. What better comparison do you want. JFC!
Its common knowledge that the bazillion rounds of ammo bought by DHS are banned by NATO
It is not common practice for any agency to fly around cities with men hanging out the side doors of helicopters shooting blanks & scaring civilians,Schools were put into lock down. It was IMO an answer to many Sheriffs running off at the mouth 3 weeks ago about how they wont enforce any anti gun ban.
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You gave a number that could have been pulled from anywhere, or just completely made up. Where did you get it from? What does "used during Iraq" mean? Used IN Iraq? Used here during the Iraq war? LINK LINK LINK

LINK for the scary helicopters as well, please.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:31 PM   #140
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:34 PM   #141
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I know better than to expect you to back something up. I'll even accept Fox as a source. Just try to make it from an actual reporter and not some freelance blogger.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:44 PM   #142
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This is probably my favorite bitch move by a yuppie dildo who couldn't out-think a ****ing houseplant - pulling the "I'm ejucaded" card.

Yeah, I'm just as impressed as hell over here, Nancy.
Irony in the form of the uneducated telling the educated they are idiots.

Yeah, I'm sure you get the "I'm educated" card a lot. It is generally used to hint that you're an uncultured old man that lacks the ability to have an intellectual conversation.

I could reiterate what most of the sane, logical people are telling you in this thread, but that would be redundant. So I'm simply pointing out the root of your idiocy, namely your lack of education.

Now, you will continue to call me a dildo, idiot, yuppie, etc etc. It's getting old, champ.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:56 PM   #143
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LINK for the scary helicopters as well, please.
It's been posted a couple times in DC.

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Old 02-18-2013, 03:03 PM   #144
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It's been posted a couple times in DC.

I just shit my pants.

Also, I watched the video. The training exercises are clear indication that we are doomed.
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Irony in the form of the uneducated telling the educated they are idiots.

Yeah, I'm sure you get the "I'm educated" card a lot. It is generally used to hint that you're an uncultured old man that lacks the ability to have an intellectual conversation.

I could reiterate what most of the sane, logical people are telling you in this thread, but that would be redundant. So I'm simply pointing out the root of your idiocy, namely your lack of education.

Now, you will continue to call me a dildo, idiot, yuppie, etc etc. It's getting old, champ.
Must really suck that I live in your head. Champ.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:10 PM   #146
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Must really suck that I live in your head. Champ.
You've said that a couple times, but I don't really know what that means. Redneck lingo?

I'm addressing you, yes, but my problem is with your distorted way of thinking, not you, per se.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:26 PM   #147
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You've said that a couple times, but I don't really know what that means. Redneck lingo?

I'm addressing you, yes, but my problem is with your distorted way of thinking, not you, per se.
It means that I so utterly violated you the first time you attempted to assert your *snicker * intellectual superiority that you just keep flailing away, only with every pathetic post you make it worse, oozing butthurt and estrogen all over the board. You might want to consider calling a rape crisis center. I'd hate to see you end up scarred for life. Check with Wickedson and see how he deals with it. Sounds like you two have a lot in common.

And BTW, as you so richly and completely demonstrate, there is a vast difference between "educated" and "intelligent."

Run along now, Spanky. I guess your next step will be to tell me how rich mommy and daddy are.
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Just answer this one simple question. How would it be better for the US government if it were to attack its citizens? What would be the advantage that would be better than the way things are now?
Still nobody even attempting to touch this question? All these videos and scary claims of tyrannical government doom, and none of you can answer this one simple question regarding motivation?
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It means that I so utterly violated you the first time you attempted to assert your *snicker * intellectual superiority that you just keep flailing away, only with every pathetic post you make it worse, oozing butthurt and estrogen all over the board. You might want to consider calling a rape crisis center. I'd hate to see you end up scarred for life. Check with Wickedson and see how he deals with it. Sounds like you two have a lot in common.

And BTW, as you so richly and completely demonstrate, there is a vast difference between "educated" and "intelligent."

Run along now, Spanky. I guess your next step will be to tell me how rich mommy and daddy are.
The first paragraph is filled with subjective ramblings of a delusional internet personality. It's nothing more than a narrow-minded diatribe with little substance, as is your persona on this board.

Please elaborate on the difference between educated and intelligent. I would love to hear the thoughts of an uneducated man going against the rational thinking that the most intelligent minds are concentrated in academia.
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The first paragraph is filled with subjective ramblings of a delusional internet personality. It's nothing more than a narrow-minded diatribe with little substance, as is your persona on this board.

Please elaborate on the difference between educated and intelligent. I would love to hear the thoughts of an uneducated man going against the rational thinking that the most intelligent minds are concentrated in academia.
You sure do puff up nice, sweetie.

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

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