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Old 02-13-2013, 10:46 AM  
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Jags QB coach: Gabbert would be best QB in this draft

I see the coach is from the Tamba Hali school of fluffing your existing QB.

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New Jacksonville Jaguars quarterbacks coach Frank Scelfo recently made a statement that would have been heresy in 2012, but actually makes a bit of sense in 2013 -- and shows just how questionable the 2013 quarterback draft class really is. 23-year old Jags quarterback Blaine Gabbert is going into his third NFL season, but would have been in this rookie class had he redshirted and stayed for his senior year at Missouri. And according to Scelfo, Gabbert would have been the best quarterback in the 2013 draft order.

“If you graded him out right now, this is his draft class. If he were coming out and the quarterback draft class the way it is, would he be the top guy taken? I think the answer is yes," Scelfo told Jacksonville.com. “Ask the scouting departments and the general managers around the league and I think you would end up with a yes on that. Basically at his age, 23, the number-one pick in the draft with two years of experience already under his belt. That’s pretty good.’’

Such an argument would have been ridiculous in a draft featuring Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Russell Wilson, Ryan Tannehill and a host of other potential NFL starters, but the fact that you have to stop and think whether Gabbert would pace the 2013 group is quite the indictment of a group of signal-callers with some pretty serious issues.

Yes, a guy who has completed 53.8 percent of his NFL passes and threw just 21 touchdown passes in 25 professional games might actually be a better long-term option than Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and their fellow NFL prospects. Smith and Barkley, who each turned down invitations to play at the Senior Bowl, will throw at next week's scouting combine. The six QBs who did show up in Mobile, Ala. to display their talents were underwhelming for the most part. Gabbert, who threw 40 touchdowns and 18 picks in two years as Missouri's starter, showed enough to be thought of as a definite first-round prospect in his draft class. From a talent perspective as opposed to team need, few 2013 quarterbacks can say the same.

Gabbert suffered an elbow injury in November that eventually ended his 2012 season, and veteran Chad Henne performed pretty admirably in Gabbert's stead. Still, the Jags seem committed to Gabbert as their man. New head coach Gus Bradley is trying to reinforce the positive by putting together a reel of Gabbert's best plays, as opposed to the blooper reel one might see if one were to review, say, the team's 41-3 loss to the Chicago Bears in October, when Gabbert completed 17 of 33 passes for 142 yards, no touchdowns, and two interceptions.

Gabbert's "best" game, at least from a quarterback rating perspective, came the nest week against the Oakland Raiders, when he completed just eight of 12 passes for 110 yards and a touchdown before leaving the game with a shoulder injury.

With all the questions, Bradley said that Gabbert will get every chance to succeed in the team's new administration. Former general manager Gene Smith, who selected Gabbert 10th overall in the 2011 NFL Draft, was replaced by Dave Caldwell, and Bradley replaced Mike Mularkey as head coach after Mularkey led the Jags to a 2-14 record in 2012.

“That was his second year," Caldwell recently told Jacksonville.com about his quarterback's prospects. "What were they saying about other quarterbacks after their second year? We’re looking for improvement [in his third year]. We need to build around him. We’ll upgrade whenever we can upgrade.’’

The problem for Caldwell is that the NFL is now a league in which it doesn't pay to be patient at the quarterback position, especially a year after seven different rookies started for their teams in 2012, and many did surprisingly well. The other problem for Caldwell and his team is that the follow-up draft to the one that planted so many great young quarterbacks in the league presents no such easy answers.

More and more, teams with iffy quarterback situations might be tempted to stick with what they have, and try to work through it.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:45 PM   #61
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And perhaps they're trying to deal Gabbert as well.
Or they're getting thier fans ready for another year of Gabbert.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:48 PM   #62
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Or they're getting thier fans ready for another year of Gabbert.
I have yet to talk to a single Jaguars fan who thought Gabbert wasn't going to be the QB next year. Why wouldn't he? There is no QB we want in this draft or free agency.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:51 PM   #63
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Rumor today is the Jags are high on Geno, likely want to move up for him. So I woudln't be so sure.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:52 PM   #64
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Rumor today is the Jags are high on Geno, likely want to move up for him. So I woudln't be so sure.
I know you are joking, but no. Caldwell is too smart and has been scouting for too long to reach like that. Dude was there for the Matt Ryan pick. He knows a good QB.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:06 PM   #65
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I really don't know why Barkleys stock dropped. I've been re watching him and he looks pretty good. If he could drive it a little more he'd be he clear cut #1.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:12 PM   #66
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I really don't know why Barkleys stock dropped. I've been re watching him and he looks pretty good. If he could drive it a little more he'd be he clear cut #1.
His decision making got really wonky this year. I dunno if he started pressing more or what but he made alot of really bad decisions.

His lack of arm strength isn't really a concern to me. I think it's overblown.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:13 PM   #67
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yeah. Dont watch tape and see what the fans see, just sit down with a cup of coffee and have a nice warm Oprah conversation with the outgoing young lad. Stupid ****.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:35 PM   #68
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Teddy Bridgewater will be so ****ing good my face is melting just thinking about it.

And I am sure Tyler Bray is ecstatic that he has a 13 year old verbally blowing him on forums.
That's statutory rape you ****ing waste of human flesh. And I'm 25, but who gives a **** right? Just say random, stupid shit until you hit the mark. That'll show em!

Again anyone pimping Underwater can just go get lost in the Sahara as you are a threat to the people around you with your incomprehensible idiocy running rampant.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:37 PM   #69
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I have yet to talk to a single Jaguars fan who thought Gabbert wasn't going to be the QB next year. Why wouldn't he? There is no QB we want in this draft or free agency.
Me **** face. He ****ing sucks dick. He shouldn't start and I'm telling you the stadium will have half attendance the entire season.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:41 PM   #70
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That's statutory rape you ****ing waste of human flesh. And I'm 25, but who gives a **** right? Just say random, stupid shit until you hit the mark. That'll show em!

Again anyone pimping Underwater can just go get lost in the Sahara as you are a threat to the people around you with your incomprehensible idiocy running rampant.
I have literally watched nothing of Bridgewater so I can't comment.
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Me **** face. He ****ing sucks dick. He shouldn't start and I'm telling you the stadium will have half attendance the entire season.
Isn't that an upgrade?
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I have literally watched nothing of Bridgewater so I can't comment.
Bridgewater isn't bad. But it's entirely too early too talk about him as the best QB in 2014.
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I really don't know why Barkleys stock dropped. I've been re watching him and he looks pretty good. If he could drive it a little more he'd be he clear cut #1.
I agree. The dude has just been overanalyzed so much to ridiculous levels.
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