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Old 02-12-2013, 08:16 PM  
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Obama wants to raise minimum wage to NINE DOLLARS AN HOUR



@RyanLizza: Obama will call for raising the federal minimum wage to $9.00/hour.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:31 AM   #91
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bullshit....typical Left wing bullshit...all of it
Dude did you miss the tongue wagging smilie?I wasn't serious dumpshit.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:33 AM   #92
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Pretty comical that lefties actually believe that dems hands are clean and they aren't involved in the same type of money grabbing scams that they always accuse repubs of. Ignorance is bliss.
So you are an ignorant dick too.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:34 AM   #93
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So bidnesses are to find creative ways to do things to stay afloat while the monstrosity known as the Federal Government wants more tax money to continue and expand on it's inefficiencies?
I didn't say anything about staying afloat. That is just one way I created something without having to raise my prices, which every one complains it will lead to.

Truth is inflation has inflated, what you paid for something 20 years ago is now higher and the minimum wage should reflect that.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:37 AM   #94
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If you think there are no real consequences to this, you are either mind bogglingly stupid or a troll.
He's an O-bot; it's some odd combination of both.

You can give them example after example after example and they'll just blame the business owners for not running the show right...and then put more power in the hands of the least efficient economic apparatus in the history of mankind - the United States Federal Government.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:39 AM   #95
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Spare me this bullshit.
WTF? Just to be clear that I wasn't serious I put a ****ing smilie in there and you still thought I was serious?

GEEEZZZ you guys can't wait to bash someone with a different opinion than yourself.

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Old 02-13-2013, 10:44 AM   #96
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Oh hey look. IMMEDIATE FALLOUT from Obama's fat communist yap opening.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdon...um-wage-2013-2

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Last night, Obama called for Congress to enact a $9 minimum wage.
It's a controversial call (some people argue that a minimum wage destroys low-end jobs), and it's unlikely to come to pass in this Congress. But in 2014, it's conceivable.

Anyway, the fast food companies (Burger King, Wendy's, McDonald's) are all down today. And it seems possible there's a connection, though it's impossible to know.

McDonald's is getting hit the most.

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Old 02-13-2013, 10:46 AM   #97
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My direct mail business is made up of a lot of mom and pop business owners and generally by the end of a work day and touching base with my customers I am ****ing depressed.
Not to worry. BRC assures us that a minimum wage increase has never driven a company out of business.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:59 AM   #98
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My first job was 18 years ago. I made minimum wage ($4.20) as a 16 year old grocery sacker before quickly getting a raise and later promoted to stocking shelves.

That job is all but extinct. Instead of baggers, you have a little contraption that checkers use to bag groceries.

But wait...half the stores I go to have self checkouts. No cashier on those lines, either. If it makes sense to reduce cashiers and baggers at a minimum wage of $7.50, it's going to make sense to eliminate them entirely at $9.00.

How many hundreds of thousands of jobs is that right there?

Raise it or don't. It doesn't impact me much either way, but it's going to have horrible unintended consequences for a lot of people who are just glad to have a job.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:08 AM   #99
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I don't care if you want to give the kids and losers a couple bucks more an hour. It is meaningless to me, but let's not pretend that these are big contributors to society or anything.
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It's better than them sitting at home and still collecting a check, no?
So you're saying we should pay a bribe to these losers to get a job?
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:15 AM   #100
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I worked my ass off for years at minimum wage. It sucks.

His statement that anyone who works 40 hours a week shouldn't live in poverty is a noble goal but in the real world I doubt its going to happen.
No offense, but anybody who worked for years and couldn't get themselves above minimum wage...

Part of making a low minimum wage is the incentive to do better for yourself. Unfortunately, now that our communist government offers welfare, unemployment, food stamps, rent subsidies, paying for phones and utilities, etc, there is no incentive for people who have no pride to better themselves.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:16 AM   #101
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WTF? Just to be clear that I wasn't serious I put a ****ing smilie in there and you still thought I was serious?

GEEEZZZ you guys can't wait to bash someone with a different opinion than yourself.
And you guys can't wait to yuck it up and dismiss some pretty scary shit for a lot of us.

I admitted last night that there was a raw nerve there when I read it, so yeah I probably fired back a little stronger than I normally would. At the same time, while you may have put a smiley in (and for the record, I rarely even notice the things; I tend do speed read stuff and just fly right past those), many of your cohorts say that exact thing and mean it. And deep down, I think you meant to include a kernel of truth in there as well.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:17 AM   #102
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So you're saying we should pay a bribe to these losers to get a job?

Not if we took away the incentive to sit on said ass.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:17 AM   #103
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The Governor of Illinois proposed last week that their state raise minimum wage to $10.00 dollars an hour.

That should run more businesses out of that all ready fail state.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:18 AM   #104
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How many full time workers actually make min wage?

If you've been there 6 months and are still making that, you're probably a shit employee.


Raising the Min wage to $9 will hurt poor people more than help them in my opinion. Why? Well, every grocery store will raise their prices to offset the increase in wages. So will Walmart, Target, Home centers, lawn care........and then there are the mom n pop places that already struggle. Child care rates just went up....now it costs that working family MORE for child care.

The chain reaction is that everything get's higher. You're a business that already pays 2nd tier employees $10, now you're moving new employees to $9. Guess who wants a raise? You move the 10 to 12, and then 14 expects to be $16.

The people who end up suffering more are the ones already struggling who are now paying $1 more for milk and bread.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:23 AM   #105
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http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdon...um-wage-2013-2




I've mentioned before that I worked in fast food for 8.5 years in my youth. I used to manage Taco Bells. Back when there was a Taco Bell Corp. A substantial bump in the minimum wage eliminates jobs in fast food. It not only eliminates current jobs but it stalls the hiring process, slowing down the creation of new jobs. You end up with salaried employees making up the difference in productivity of your smaller labor force. Those creative solutions that someone alluded to include outsourcing food prep. You end up with shittier food, less effective customer service and dirtier stores. If the bump is high enough those changes become permanent as they did at Taco Bell.
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