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Old 02-03-2013, 05:06 PM  
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Saudi Cleric Beats 5-Year-Old Daughter To Death, Receives Light Sentence

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Online activists in Saudi Arabia are calling for harsher punishments for child abuse after reports that a prominent cleric received only a light sentence after confessing to the beating death of his 5-year-old daughter.

The social media campaign gaining momentum Sunday is the latest attempt to use the Internet to pressure the kingdom's ultraconservative rulers.

Saudi media reports say Fayhan al-Ghamdi, a frequent guest on Islamic TV programs, was arrested in November on charges of killing the girl. The reports said he questioned the child's virginity.

Saudi media say he was freed last week after serving a short prison term and agreeing to pay $50,000 in "blood money" to avoid a possible death sentence.

The money was presumably offered to the girl's mother or other relatives.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2610841.html




Oh, by the way, The Kingdom is a monarchy ruled by religious law.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:03 AM   #46
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In no way what so ever am I making excuses for or condoning this.

I'm simply reminding those who want to say that Saudi/Muslim law is savage that people in the United States of America took a similar stance toward crime and punishment with regard to the rape and murder of human beings. Kill a slave, pay a fine...kill them in the heat of passion, the fine gets cheaper. Sickening.
Yes, we'll keep that in mind the next time someone talks about bringing back slavery.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:05 AM   #47
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yeah, but we don't do that
But we did...we did...
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:06 AM   #48
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But we did...we did...
and we stopped because it was bad.

they still do it.

wtf?
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:07 AM   #49
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Yes, we'll keep that in mind the next time someone talks about bringing back slavery.
Maybe you should have had it in mind when people were recently talking about how we should have just let slavery run its course in the Best/Worst Presidents thread.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:11 AM   #50
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and we stopped because it was bad.

they still do it.

wtf?
Are you saying the founding fathers didn't get it right? How dare you sir, how dare you!
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:12 AM   #51
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Are you saying the founding fathers didn't get it right? How dare you sir, how dare you!
Are you just trying to argue?
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:14 AM   #52
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Maybe you should have had it in mind when people were recently talking about how we should have just let slavery run its course in the Best/Worst Presidents thread.
No, I don't think I need to. I'm not living with some fear about slavery making a comeback, and I don't see any value in comparing US slavery from 1830 to modern day Suadi Arabia, unless your point is to show how backward they are. But your point seems to be that we're not much better, because of what happened in 1830. Which, whatever. Just seems kind of weird.

But best of luck with that! It's nice to see you're moving beyond your regular spaz attacks about gun control issues!.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:21 AM   #53
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In no way what so ever am I making excuses for or condoning this.

I'm simply reminding those who want to say that Saudi/Muslim law is savage that people in the United States of America took a similar stance toward crime and punishment with regard to the rape and murder of human beings. Kill a slave, pay a fine...kill them in the heat of passion, the fine gets cheaper. Sickening.

Put that in the pipe of the US being based on Judeo-Christian values and smoke it long and hard.
Yeah, actually you are, by deflecting the current issue.

This issue transcends politics, but you want to muck around in the mud. Not sure what your beef is with Americans, or why you would want to support and defend the Saudis in this situation, but your mucking in around in the mud is sickening.

What slavers did 150 years ago is not germane to the situation at hand here. Saying that the people should not condemn this heinous act because one of their ancestors might have done something horrible 150 years ago is just stupid and asinine.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:22 AM   #54
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Are you just trying to argue?
Isn't that what occurs in DC? Why are you addressing me other than to argue against me?
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:25 AM   #55
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Isn't that what occurs in DC? Why are you addressing me other than to argue against me?
You don't seem to be addressing a point. You just refute what everyone is saying by using some irrelevant argument about slavery.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:26 AM   #56
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Yeah, actually you are, by deflecting the current issue.

This issue transcends politics, but you want to muck around in the mud. Not sure what your beef is with Americans, or why you would want to support and defend the Saudis in this situation, but your mucking in around in the mud is sickening.

What slavers did 150 years ago is not germane to the situation at hand here. Saying that the people should not condemn this heinous act because one of their ancestors might have done something horrible 150 years ago is just stupid and asinine.
I never said this act should not be condemned. Never once have I said that. Again, just reminding those that want to say this has everything to do with "Muslims" is short sighted considering our own country based in not Muslim religion did the same thing.

Indeed. This does go beyond politics. And beyond religion.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:28 AM   #57
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We're not really that far removed from the Spanish Inquisition. Scary stuff.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:30 AM   #58
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You don't seem to be addressing a point. You just refute what everyone is saying by using some irrelevant argument about slavery.
What's your points then? This is a heinous act and that there isn't a punishment bad enough? Agreed.

/End Thread.

What's that? Not end thread, because we still have time to bash Muslims? Cool, proceed. I'll be busy telling you our own Christian country did the same thing.
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I had only just sort of scanned KChiefer's posts before, and I thought maybe he was kind of bright, but the more I read the more it just seems like he's kind of dumb.
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But best of luck with that! It's nice to see you're moving beyond your regular spaz attacks about gun control issues!.
It's nice to see you haven't informed R8ers that it's unnecessary to (re)post stories that involve guns because they're not news. You're slacking bro.
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