Man shot dead after pulling into wrong driveway

[KChiefer]

LILBURN, Ga. —

Lilburn police are investigating the fatal shooting of a 22-year-old man.

Police said they were called out to a man's home on Hillcrest Drive on Saturday night.

A group of friends said they were going to pick up a girl who lived in the area to go ice skating around 10 p.m. when their GPS system sent them to the wrong home.

The friends said they pulled into the driveway and saw a man peer out the window. They said they waited in the car for a bit and then the man, Phillip Sailors, 69, came out of the home with a handgun, firing a round into the air.

“The guy came out. He went in again and he came out with a gun in his hand and he shot into the air,” 15-year-old passenger Yeson Jimenez said.

The friends said that's when they tried leaving the house, and said Sailors pointed the gun at the car and shot Rodrigo Diaz, 22, who was driving the car. An arrest warrant said Sailors had a .22-caliber pistol.
The passengers said Sailors never asked what they were doing there.

“’Shut up.’ That’s the only thing that came out of his mouth,” passenger Gandy Cardenas said.

The friends said Sailors held the rest of the people in the car at gunpoint until police arrived at the home. All three passengers in the car are Parkview High School students.

Sailors is being held on no bond on charges of malice murder. He has no known criminal history.

The warrant said the Diaz was struck on the left side of the head.

Friends told Channel 2's Tony Thomas that Diaz had just arrived here from Colombia three months ago.

Thomas has also learned Sailors is a war veteran and a former church missionary. Sailors' attorney told Thomas that the man believed he and his wife were being attacked.

“He is very distraught over the loss of life from the defense of his home. This incident happened late in the evening hours when he was home with his wife and he assumed it was a home invasion and he maintains his innocence,” the attorney said.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...driving/nT8rm/

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They never even got out of the car, sigh.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

That seems reasonable. You're kind of a moron, huh?

Bite your tongue, cosmo.


HE IS A HERO OF THE DEMONS!

[frazod]

KChiefer found a story that makes a gun owner look bad!

[CrazyPhuD]

THey should have listened when he said 'Get off my lawn'

Seriously though the story doesn't wash....picking someone up to go ice skating at 10PM in an area known for a lack of real winter. While possible it stretches some degree of credibility.

Second an old white guy came out...he went back in and you didn't realize you were in the wrong place? And he comes out again with a gun and your first response isn't to leave? He fires a shot in the air and you still don't think to leave?

Generally speaking if the guy wanted to kill them he wouldn't have fired a shot in the air...dude would have been firing at them from the start. For him to go shot in the air and then shoot at them, suggests they did something to change the situation.

Plus a .22 caliber pistol isn't going to penetrate the front windshield of any car...hell a 9mm, 45...most any pistol caliber round will do nothing against tempered glass in any windshield.

Plus dude isn't going to hold the rest of them at gun point until the cops show up if he intended murder. Especially since I'm betting he or his wife was the one to call the cops.

Lots of holes in the story hard to jump to any conclusion over who was right or wrong that's what the legal system will be fore.

[cosmo20002]

They need to ban driveways.

/CP'er who thinks he's clever

[ILChief]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

THey should have listened when he said 'Get off my lawn'

Seriously though the story doesn't wash....picking someone up to go ice skating at 10PM in an area known for a lack of real winter. While possible it stretches some degree of credibility.

Second an old white guy came out...he went back in and you didn't realize you were in the wrong place? And he comes out again with a gun and your first response isn't to leave? He fires a shot in the air and you still don't think to leave?

Generally speaking if the guy wanted to kill them he wouldn't have fired a shot in the air...dude would have been firing at them from the start. For him to go shot in the air and then shoot at them, suggests they did something to change the situation.

Plus a .22 caliber pistol isn't going to penetrate the front windshield of any car...hell a 9mm, 45...most any pistol caliber round will do nothing against tempered glass in any windshield.

Plus dude isn't going to hold the rest of them at gun point until the cops show up if he intended murder. Especially since I'm betting he or his wife was the one to call the cops.

Lots of holes in the story hard to jump to any conclusion over who was right or wrong that's what the legal system will be fore.

Because nowhere has indoor ice skating rinks

[CoMoChief]

If only those kids had some scissors

[blaise]

Originally Posted by KChiefer

Please do.

I was going to post this in the Official School Shooting thread, but while the victim was a student, he was not at a school.

Given the recent gun debate where gun rights advocates have been pleading that more guns is the solution and we need them as big and loaded as possible to stop the droves of looting rapists outside our windows, that perhaps this story would make a decent counterpoint. Sometimes the guy in the driveway is just trying to consensually screw someone's daughter and even a 22-pistol can do what many feel they need a 30round AR-15 for.

So, basically you were trying to make the same type of counterpoint you just cried about someone else making when you claimed they hijacked your thread.
They posted a video showing the other side. You started a thread showing the other side. Makes me wonder why you cried to begin with.

[notorious]

It seems like the old man is guilty, but let's wait for more info.


Were the kids acting like they were going to run over him? Were they acting like they had a gun?

Probably not, but there are some unknowns out there.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

THey should have listened when he said 'Get off my lawn'

Seriously though the story doesn't wash....picking someone up to go ice skating at 10PM in an area known for a lack of real winter. While possible it stretches some degree of credibility.

Second an old white guy came out...he went back in and you didn't realize you were in the wrong place? And he comes out again with a gun and your first response isn't to leave? He fires a shot in the air and you still don't think to leave?

Generally speaking if the guy wanted to kill them he wouldn't have fired a shot in the air...dude would have been firing at them from the start. For him to go shot in the air and then shoot at them, suggests they did something to change the situation.

Plus a .22 caliber pistol isn't going to penetrate the front windshield of any car...hell a 9mm, 45...most any pistol caliber round will do nothing against tempered glass in any windshield.

Plus dude isn't going to hold the rest of them at gun point until the cops show up if he intended murder. Especially since I'm betting he or his wife was the one to call the cops.

Lots of holes in the story hard to jump to any conclusion over who was right or wrong that's what the legal system will be fore.

Did you miss the part where the bullet struck the left side of his head? Door glass is only tempered. It's not safely glass.

[Comrade Crapski]

Originally Posted by frazod

KChiefer found a story that makes a gun owner look bad!

[Thatguy]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

THey should have listened when he said 'Get off my lawn'

Seriously though the story doesn't wash....picking someone up to go ice skating at 10PM in an area known for a lack of real winter. While possible it stretches some degree of credibility.

Second an old white guy came out...he went back in and you didn't realize you were in the wrong place? And he comes out again with a gun and your first response isn't to leave? He fires a shot in the air and you still don't think to leave?

Generally speaking if the guy wanted to kill them he wouldn't have fired a shot in the air...dude would have been firing at them from the start. For him to go shot in the air and then shoot at them, suggests they did something to change the situation.

Plus a .22 caliber pistol isn't going to penetrate the front windshield of any car...hell a 9mm, 45...most any pistol caliber round will do nothing against tempered glass in any windshield.

Plus dude isn't going to hold the rest of them at gun point until the cops show up if he intended murder. Especially since I'm betting he or his wife was the one to call the cops.

Lots of holes in the story hard to jump to any conclusion over who was right or wrong that's what the legal system will be fore.

Its always the same response with certain types of people. Defend the gun owner, question the victims, then complain that the mass media is protecting the victims and questing the gun owner, the same cycle of bullshit. . At this point the gun owner is looking like an idiot who killed a kid because he was an irresponsible gun owner. Until we know more about the case , you cant assume anything-all you can do is go with the facts. I have no clue what happened, all I know is someone was shot and killed because they were lost and pulled into the wrong drive way. If we find out later there were other circumstances that may have caused him to shot into a car full of people then my view may change.

A lot of you are just looking at this from your political view point ( the same thing you whine and cry about the "liberal media" doing ) and are instantly defending the gun owner and assuming he didn't do anything wrong. You cant assume something happened when there are no facts to back it up. You cant assume the guy made the right call to shoot into a car full of people without facts to back it up. If you want to bitch about people assuming things then stop doing it yourself.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Thatguy

A lot of you are just looking at this from your political view point

You are a modern day ****ing Einstein

[Thatguy]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

You are a modern day ****ing Einstein

Thank you sir. You have a great day!

[Hog Farmer]

Driveways should be banned ! If it weren't for driveways the loss of life in America would be significantly reduced.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Driveways should be banned ! If it weren't for driveways the loss of life in America would be significantly reduced.

Q

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

They need to ban driveways.

/CP'er who thinks he's clever