Why do people like Chris Christie?

[Bo's Pelini]

I've never seen this guy say anything thoughtful and he always seems angry. Why is he so appealing to confused peopled like Kotter?

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It doesn't change the fact that you tried to copy-cut-paste an argument to fit what we are talking about.

The economy didn't crash because of government spending. If anything, they weren't active enough in regulating financial markets as the private sector started gambling with derivatives and in protecting consumers from horrible lending practices.

They just replaced older regulations that worked for new ones that didn't.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Exactly.

And he's passionate enough in his fiscal conservative beliefs to make a forceful presentation.

Seeing at where we'll be in 2016 he'll destroy any democratic candidate.

He won't win the youth vote.

[DementedLogic]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It doesn't change the fact that you tried to copy-cut-paste an argument to fit what we are talking about.

The economy didn't crash because of government spending. If anything, they weren't active enough in regulating financial markets as the private sector started gambling with derivatives and in protecting consumers from horrible lending practices.

The people who predicted the bubble buildup, and eventual economic collapse, blame the collapse on too much intervention in the market place, not under regulation. I think I'm going to listen to the people who actually saw this coming, not the people who want to figure out what happened after the fact.

[go bowe]

Originally Posted by Taco John

You're a clown. Nobody is reading you empty bullshit, especially not me.

Calling yourself a "pragmatic man of reason" is comedy at its finest. You're a man in a diaper hoping for a pat on the head from the popular kids. You exist to fit in. No one on this forum considers you even remotely close to a "critical thinker" so spare us the bullshit. You are pragmatic though, I got to give you that. It's always pragmatic to vote for what's popular. Always.

actually, i read his empty bullshit and find it much more rational than your general blatherings about all things paulian/austrian...

you should stop with the no-one bullshit, really...

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

He won't win the youth vote.

People under the age of 30 shouldn't be voting anyway.

[go bowe]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

People under the age of 30 shouldn't be voting anyway.

yeah, i'm tired of all those broads voting too, let's take away their right to vote while we're at it...

and don't forget those democrats, they don't need to vote either...

and then they came for me...

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by go bowe

actually, i read his empty bullshit and find it much more rational than your general blatherings about all things paulian/austrian...

you should stop with the no-one bullshit, really...

TJ, BEP, and even BL....think "nobody" is everyone; when in reality it is merely their lunatic fringe ideological soul-mates here, that are belied/outnumbered in the pos rep I get. Heh.

[go bowe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Your questionable "sources" and selective citations of only one side of the story, without telling the whole story....and more importantly, constant attention to the bad without any recognition of the good...makes such a generalizations a pretty safe bet.

Between you and BEP, you two have more bats in your belfry than Phyllis Diller and Pee Wee Herman.

HEY! what have you got against phylly and pee wee?

they never did anything to you, did they?

[listopencil]

When did people start liking politicians again? Is this a thing now? What the ****?

[scott free]

Originally Posted by go bowe

actually, i read his empty bullshit and find it much more rational than your general blatherings about all things paulian/austrian...

you should stop with the no-one bullshit, really...

Yep, there isnt a soul here who does a better job of acting like some kind of existential ****ing genius than Taco.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

TJ, BEP, and even BL....think "nobody" is everyone; when in reality it is merely their lunatic fringe ideological soul-mates here, that are belied/outnumbered in the pos rep I get. Heh.

My beef with you isn't you're positions, it's that you never put any thought into any of them.

Tell me PRECISELY what view I have that are fringe. I admit having strong convictions, but I submit that they are not fringe.

My strongest convictions are 1st amendment, 2nd amendment and fiscal discipline. The rest I am completely flexible on.

If there is evidence to the contrary, demonstrate it, or kindly be ****ed.

BTW - no offense, but Go Bowe's sudden BFF status with Kotter legitimately made the saddest I've ever been on CP. And some dude killed his GF then himself in front of the CEO and coach.

[go bowe]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

My beef with you isn't you're positions, it's that you never put any thought into any of them.

Tell me PRECISELY what view I have that are fringe. I admit having strong convictions, but I submit that they are not fringe.

My strongest convictions are 1st amendment, 2nd amendment and fiscal discipline. The rest I am completely flexible on.

If there is evidence to the contrary, demonstrate it, or kindly be ****ed.

BTW - no offense, but Go Bowe's sudden BFF status with Kotter legitimately made the saddest I've ever been on CP. And some dude killed his GF then himself in front of the CEO and coach.

aye laddie...

there is a difference between objecting to "nobody listens" and being a bff, i hope...

at the very least, kotter is entertaining and occasionally thought-provoking...

hell, i even agree with him once in awhile, but don't hate me for it...

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

My beef with you isn't you're positions, it's that you never put any thought into any of them.

Tell me PRECISELY what view I have that are fringe. I admit having strong convictions, but I submit that they are not fringe....

BTW - no offense, but Go Bowe's sudden BFF status with Kotter legitimately made the saddest I've ever been on CP. And some dude killed his GF then himself in front of the CEO and coach.

BL, I included you because you and a handful of others....constitute the "nobody" part of Isaac's hyperbole. I would not put you on the lunatic fringe with TJ, BEP, KillerClown, Pete, and other RWNJ wingtards. I actually admire your willingness to engage in rational debate. I just don't have your patience. For you to say I don't put any thought into my positions is just patently silly though.

You and I may disagree more in the last 5 years than we did in the early years of CP...but if you'd bother to notice, I'm willing to engage reasonable attempts at dialogue here--it's just that so many are beyond reasonable, I don't try with them. Conservatives seemed just fine when moonbats like jAZ were my object of my wrath, but as a moderate I object to ideological extremism on both sides. Sorry if that somehow translates into "never putting any thought" into my positions for you--but that don't make it so.

John and I go way back; we have our disagreements, but also some common ground. The difference between you and he seems to be he understands principled moderation is a legitimate philosophy--but most importantly he understands that I don't argue with ideologues, rather I just use them for entertainment. He and some others do appreciate the difference, even if you don't.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by listopencil

When did people start liking politicians again? Is this a thing now? What the ****?

I don't like them, in fact I view them as scum. Leaches who see themselves as royalty~

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by RNR

I don't like them, in fact I view them as scum. Leaches who see themselves as royalty~

Leeches, some of 'em, yeah; just not on the scale of insurance salesmen, car salesmen, lawyers, CEOs, or corporate board members who have them beat by geometric proportions. Not even close....public service vs. self-centered avarice.