Why do people like Chris Christie?

[Bo's Pelini]

I've never seen this guy say anything thoughtful and he always seems angry. Why is he so appealing to confused peopled like Kotter?

[RNR]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

WRONG.

They lose a few rights.

And then the next public tragedy happens and they lose a few more.

The 2nd amendment shouldn't be subject to Washington DCs slippery slope bullshit.

To the point without theatrics just to the point and on the money. The rep will say the same~

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

WRONG.

They lose a few rights.

And then the next public tragedy happens and they lose a few more.

The 2nd amendment shouldn't be subject to Washington DCs slippery slope bullshit.

Versus losing a ton of your rights by standing your ground.

And then the next public tragedy happens and they lose a few more, maybe a lot more.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Versus losing a ton of your rights by standing your ground.

And then the next public tragedy happens and they lose a few more, maybe a lot more.

"Nothing we are going to do is fundamentally going to alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down." --- Joe Biden, February 1st, 2013

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Taco John

"Nothing we are going to do is fundamentally going to alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down." --- Joe Biden, February 1st, 2013

Let me ask you this....
How much scrutiny does the tobacco industry get today vs. 20 years ago? Is it because the threat of cancer went away? Or was it because the tobacco companies stop going on the maverick spree of "as long as we're not doing anything illegal, we can do whatever we want" and started toward a message of at least trying to act a little sympathetic (even if it was disingenuous)?

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Let me ask you this....
How much scrutiny does the tobacco industry get today vs. 20 years ago? Is it because the threat of cancer went away? Or was it because the tobacco companies stop going on the maverick spree of "as long as we're not doing anything illegal, we can do whatever we want" and started toward a message of at least trying to act a little sympathetic (even if it was disingenuous)?

http://www.alternet.org/story/149599...he_near_future

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Versus losing a ton of your rights by standing your ground.

And then the next public tragedy happens and they lose a few more, maybe a lot more.

we dont give an inch. Not on this.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

we dont give an inch. Not on this.

Cool. Then it's a good thing conservatives stood their ground on entitlements. And then ended up with a compromise that didn't address entitlements one iota.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Cool. Then it's a good thing conservatives stood their ground on entitlements. And then ended up with a compromise that didn't address entitlements one iota.

Completely different subject. The constitution says what it says. I stand with it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Taco John

http://www.alternet.org/story/149599...he_near_future

That's your source?
20 years ago, you were talking about massive lawsuits, massive anti-smoking marketing blitzes, pretty much a war on big tobacco. Now you have one advocacy website worrying about tobacco legislation. Today, tobacco is a side conversation. Why? Because the tobacco company chose to play the PR game, going against their long history of fighting back.

I get the idea of standing your ground. But the refusal to play into at least some of the publicity war is hurting the cause big time. And the issue is never going to go away until someone does.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

Completely different subject. The constitution says what it says. I stand with it.

Do you think all speech is protected? And do you think it should be?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Do you think all speech is protected? And do you think it should be?

Do you think you are saying something new here? This discussion has been done to death. I do not compromise on second amendment rights, nor does the nra. It has served them and me well. Any pol who wants to step up, go ahead. You will find that line to be pretty sparse.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

Do you think you are saying something new here? This discussion has been done to death. I do not compromise on second amendment rights, nor does the nra. It has served them and me well. Any pol who wants to step up, go ahead. You will find that line to be pretty sparse.

I am not saying anything new. I am responding to your line that the constitution says what it says, therefore, that is an absolute.

It is your right to defend gun rights. I support gun rights too. I am just pointing out the dangerous logic that giving an inch in compromise is worse than standing your ground and potentially giving up a mile.

[HonestChieffan]

Fattys love a fatty.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Fattys love a fatty.

Dumbfugg-morons love dumbfugg-morons. Thanks for so many first hand examples, Rushbo!

[redsurfer11]

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Seems like a guy who you would want to have beer and ribs with.

It is rare to find a place that cooks and sells ribs in NJ.