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DHS places and order for 7k select-fire rifles for personal defense
On 7 June 2012, the Department of Homeland security drew up a proposal to purchase 7k select-fire rifles in a 5.56x45mm caliber. In that proposal, the rifles are described as follows:
"DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required." (Section C(PDW)ver 7.pdf - available in the below link) Suitable for personal defense in close quarters or maximum concealment, eh? Sounds like a kind of situation one might encounter in their own home and faced with an intruder. It seems as if in the eyes of the government these are select-fire personal defense tools in the hands of one of their agents. In the hands of a good law abiding citizens they are semi-automatic assault rifle mass killing machines. Link: https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d791b6aa0fd9d3d8833b2efa08300033&tab=core&_cview=0 ![]() |
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Exactly. Which makes the rest of your argument moot.
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By the way, I'm not talking about repealing the 2nd amendment, as Fish implied in post #87.
I just see no need for semiautomatics. Pete's defense is "well you never know, there could be numerous criminals, armed to the teeth, storming my house looking to kill. Also, the police don't exist and the sky rains bananas." |
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I'm extending the argument -- if we need semiautos on our bedside stands because something virtually inconceivable could happen, I see no reason why that can't extend to grenade launchers.
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But there's no need to arm yourself to the teeth in the off chance that an absurdly inconceivable event will occur.
Any more than you'll need carry cyanide pills with you if/when you go on a ship cruise in the off, off, off case you're overtaken by brutal pirates. |
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A: ask them to stand still so I can use 2 bullets each on them B: dial 911 and ask them to wait patiently while the Police take 30 minutes to get ehre You don't see a need for sem-auto's because you are ignorant to firearms which you have demonstarted multiple times.
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You're "Extending the argument" because talking about the argument in non-hyperbolic terms fails to provide any support for your opinion.
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You're just concocting absurd situations as justification for stocking yourself to the teeth with guns. That's pretty much the definition of paranoid. |
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I don't see any conceivable difference between a semiauto and a grenade launcher in this scenario. Please delineate the material difference as to make my comparison obsolete.
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If we're talking about instruments that make indiscriminate killing incredibly easy to achieve, we do need to justify their usage and/or legality. |
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Then you're either ignorant or attempting to be ignorant.
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"the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
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Nonsense. We can regulate gun ownership.
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