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Old 01-29-2013, 05:56 AM  
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DHS places and order for 7k select-fire rifles for personal defense

On 7 June 2012, the Department of Homeland security drew up a proposal to purchase 7k select-fire rifles in a 5.56x45mm caliber. In that proposal, the rifles are described as follows:

"DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required." (Section C(PDW)ver 7.pdf - available in the below link)

Suitable for personal defense in close quarters or maximum concealment, eh? Sounds like a kind of situation one might encounter in their own home and faced with an intruder.

It seems as if in the eyes of the government these are select-fire personal defense tools in the hands of one of their agents. In the hands of a good law abiding citizens they are semi-automatic assault rifle mass killing machines.

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https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d791b6aa0fd9d3d8833b2efa08300033&tab=core&_cview=0


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Old 01-29-2013, 11:31 AM   #46
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So you need an automatic weapon to protect your family? Sounds like someone has shitty aim....
You are obviously another idiot when it comes to firearms.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:31 AM   #47
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Never fired an automatic weapon before, have you?
Do you think one lines itís sights up on the target automatically also?
And the target stands still for you as well...come on now, we are talking about Liberal Utopia!
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:37 AM   #48
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What does it matter? You act like if someone has the same thing as DHs they will automatically become a criminal and what not. You're a ****ing idiot whose entire argument is based on blaming an inanimate object for someone breaking the law.
This is a non-response to what I asked.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:37 AM   #49
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so what we have deduced in this thread is so intersting:

Mrs. Direckshun has a crystal ball and knows exactly what you need to defend yourself and that you should value your life and the lives of your loved ones less than some elected doucebag

Cave Johnson thinks criminals stand still for you to shoot them therefore no need for an "automatic" weapon
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:38 AM   #50
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This is a non-response to what I asked.
No, it's a direct response to the idiotic implications you have made on this subject time and time again
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:38 AM   #51
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the firepower of a semi-auto? You're a ****ing idiot. Just shutup now.
Also a non-response.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:39 AM   #52
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It may matter to you but then again you aren't the one who is going to defend me so I think I will decide the value of my life, thank you.
The value of your life is not determined by the power of firearms you carry with you.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:40 AM   #53
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Also a non-response.
Explain what the "firepower" of a semi-auto means, will you?
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Mrs. Direckshun has a crystal ball and knows exactly what you need to defend yourself
You don't need a semiauto. Period.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:41 AM   #55
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Explain what the "firepower" of a semi-auto means, will you?
The capacity to create a lot of death really easily, and very quickly.
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The value of your life is not determined by the power of firearms you carry with you.
Really? So then why the **** do you care if choose to have a semi-automatic weapon or not then?

And while your at it, douchebag, why don't you tell us all what determines the value of our lives and the lives of our loved ones?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:42 AM   #57
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Really? So then why the **** do you care if choose to have a semi-automatic weapon or not then?
Because they can create a ton of death really quickly and really easily.

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And while your at it, douchebag, why don't you tell us all what determines the value of our lives and the lives of our loved ones?
That's a discussion for another thread, and probably another forum.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:42 AM   #58
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You don't need a semiauto. Period.
Really? Why? Tell us, dipshit, what crystal ball do you have that says how many bullets I need to protect myself against a threat you have no ****ing idea of what may be.

tell us....
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:43 AM   #59
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Because they can create a ton of death really quickly and really easily.



That's a discussion for another thread, and probably another forum.
Death quickly and easily? Do you realize trained cops..yes cop(S) popped off 45 rounds at a perp and only hit him 19 times?

You're a ****ing idiot.
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Really? Why? Tell us, dipshit, what crystal ball do you have that says how many bullets I need to protect myself against a threat you have no ****ing idea of what may be.

tell us....
Because the odds of you ever running into a situation where you need to get off that much ammunition that quickly is in the neighborhood of zero.
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