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DHS places and order for 7k select-fire rifles for personal defense
On 7 June 2012, the Department of Homeland security drew up a proposal to purchase 7k select-fire rifles in a 5.56x45mm caliber. In that proposal, the rifles are described as follows:
"DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required." (Section C(PDW)ver 7.pdf - available in the below link) Suitable for personal defense in close quarters or maximum concealment, eh? Sounds like a kind of situation one might encounter in their own home and faced with an intruder. It seems as if in the eyes of the government these are select-fire personal defense tools in the hands of one of their agents. In the hands of a good law abiding citizens they are semi-automatic assault rifle mass killing machines. Link: https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d791b6aa0fd9d3d8833b2efa08300033&tab=core&_cview=0 ![]() |
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Oh man, let's not get into what we think the 2nd amendment actually prescribes as written in the Constitution.
I don't think it's for private citizens to band together into a militia to supplement the state's law enforcement. |
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Well it sure as **** wasn't for hunting as your bitch boys in the WH want to keep implying
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so if the militia isn't made up of private citizens then who???
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/məˈliSHə/ Noun 1.A military force of civilians to supplement a regular army in an emergency. 2.A military force that engages in rebel activities. ![]()
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A police force and a military force.
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No dumbass, that would the military or police. My God man, you don't even know WTF a Miliita is!
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I am in complete and total agreement that there needs to be stricter gun control. In looking through the list when it first came out... I would like clarification on a few points but overall I have no problems with the 23 edicts. I strongly believe that there is one point that needs to be addressed and that is education. When the 2nd was penned, fathers would teach their kids about gun safety and marksmanship. Unfortunately that is no longer the case. Now... anyone regardless of their level of knowledge can pick up a gun and ammo without knowing the first thing about it's safe use and storage. This is a far more dangerous situation for everyone than a trained and responsible individual keeping a semi auto rifle. Where I draw the line of what is acceptable (to me) in terms of gun control: * forcing me to register individual weapons with the authorities (there is no need for them to have an elaborate database detailing what type/caliber guns they have) * limiting magazine capacity (I believe you and I will heavily disagree here) * banning semi-auto rifles/handguns * confiscation of said guns (ala Sen. Feinstein's interview about Mr. and Mrs. America turning in their guns) |
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311 10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes Current through Pub. L. 112-238. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.) (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia. |
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Dude, he doesn't even know what a Militia is...how do you expect him to comprehend this?
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A database on guns would actually point us to the small percentage of gun retailers that are derelict/negligent/criminal in their responsibility to sell guns to responsible citizens. |
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Also the framers gave the President and Congress ultimate authority over the militia. Quote:
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I don't know what that has to do with any point I made about the 2nd not being about hunting or personal self-defense?
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