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Old 01-28-2013, 07:11 AM  
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Scott Piolli's Top 10 Underclassmen

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I asked former Chiefs GM Scott Pioli, who was in the midst of finalizing the club's preliminary draft board when fired early this month, to examine the record 73 underclass players who declared for the draft and pick the top 10, in his mind. His view of the junior board:

First of all, Jan. 28 is a dangerous time to commit to "top players" in any category, particularly underclassmen. There is still a lot of work to do before we know who and what these players are. Sometimes players look better with less information. NFL rules don't allow teams to officially scout underclassmen during fall campus visits, and scouts can't comment publicly on them either. When scouts go into school visits in the fall, they are not allowed to ask questions about underclassmen when speaking with coaches, trainers and any other support staff. Obviously, scouts and team officials with relationships with coaches or other school officials might glean some information regarding the players prematurely, but the understanding is clear on campuses: We're there to scout the fourth-year players, not anyone younger.

So you might ask, "Well, how do you have an idea about how the underclassmen will be rated so soon after they've declared?" I'll give you an example. I went to Tallahassee this year to scout Florida State prospects. Four other Chiefs' scouts were on campus as well during the year. We all watched tape, and we watched practice. When it comes to defensive end Bjoern Werner, for instance, we obviously saw him stand out on tape and in person. So it's not difficult to understand why he's so highly regarded by NFL teams: Watching Florida State, Werner's production jumps out at you.

This draft may have a record number of underclassmen, but it may not be the quality that people are expecting. How I see the top 10 juniors now, keeping in mind the fact-finding on them will be ongoing for the next three months before the draft:

1. Luke Joeckel, T, Texas A&M. Strong candidate for the first overall pick. Three-year starter at left tackle in the Big 12 and never red-shirted. A true height-weight-speed prospect who plays with good athleticism and body control. Will play early while he develops better hip and core strength. Good teammate too.

2. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama. One of the youngest players in the draft (20), but a very experienced corner from the best-coached DB group in the country. Milliner has the flexibility, intelligence and experience to play outside corner and also line up in the slot. Should contribute on special teams early in his career.

3. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida. Also 20, Floyd is a strong, athletic defensive lineman who, at 6-foot-3 and 303 pounds, has position and scheme versatility. Good competitor and tough player against the run and pass. Not great sack numbers, but consistently disruptive in the pass rush, and the type of player who makes those around him better by making the offense concentrate so much on stopping him.

4. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State. Born in Germany, Werner learned football while at a Connecticut prep school as an exchange student. Played just two prep years before signing with Florida Stats. Two-year starter at left end in FSU's base and sub packages who shows surprising natural instincts, good hand strength and athletic ability. Pretty impressive to see he had 13 sacks in the ACC in the 2012 season.

5. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State. At 6-3 and 335, he still has the athleticism to line up at multiple positions on the line -- not just at the nose. Active and instinctive, and showed improvement from 2011. Very good player versus the run that needs to continue to improve his every-down consistency.

6. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama. Low-mileage rusher (355 carries in three seasons with the Tide) who played behind two outstanding backs early in his career (Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson). Averaged 6.8 yards per rush in his college career behind an offensive line better than some NFL lines. Good receiving skills, and a willing blocker. He should be an every-down back in the NFL.

7. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia. Began his college career at USC in 2009 and transferred closer to home after suffering a neck injury his true freshman year. Highly instinctive and productive college player, but at 6-3 and 241, could be a tough positional fit. Dominated certain games (Florida), disappeared in others (Alabama).

8. Keenan Allen, WR, Cal. Originally committed to Alabama out of HS, but decided to join his QB brother Zach to play together at Cal. Allen is a big (6-3, 210), savvy and highly competitive WR who has played the slot and outside. Lacks top speed, but is very natural and quick. In a WR class that appears to lack elite players, he may be the best.

9. Alec Ogletree, MLB, Georgia. Tremendously talented athlete at 6-3 and 232, and should be an every-down NFL inside 'backer or middle 'backer. Has the skill and ability to contribute immediately all defenses as well as special teams. Jumps off the tape and could have the most upside of any underclassman in the draft. But some off-the-field issues will need to be studied before giving him a final grade.

10. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State. Three-year starter who was hampered this season by a knee injury that he played through. Good height-weight-speed prospect at 6-6 and 255 who right now is more receiver than blocker. I'm high on his ability to produce as an offensive tight end right now in the more wide-open NFL offenses. He's what we call an "F-type'' tight end, a receiver who can play off the line probably more productively than as a blocker right now.

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Old 01-29-2013, 12:04 AM   #196
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Right.

More proof you're a ****ing liar and a piece of shit.

What's the bet, Bitch?
It's not a bet "bitch". Go be a better father to your kids and take a breather from your Internet life.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:07 AM   #197
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It's not a bet "bitch". Go be a better father to your kids and take a breather from your Internet life.
Wow, that is such GREAT advice from a ****ing 23 year old!

Whew! I don't know what I'd do without it, you ****ing slimy ****.

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That's fine Dane. It's my mission from this point on to get you banned. Carry on with your daily rants telling people how worthless they are and everything else.

You are the bravest Internet soul that lives 2,000 miles away that I have ever seen.
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I'm not but hurt at all, people come here to talk football. You come here to make your baby dick hard by intimidating people you will never see. Bc if you ever talked to anyone that way in person you'd be flat on your back.

I'd be willing to bet you've fumbled thru life with little, to no success. You have some serious ****ing issues.
The internet is FOREVER, Dumb****.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:09 AM   #198
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And I'm the dick?

You couldnt spend 2 weeks in the military you pussy. Stick to being a message board tough guy with your name calling. We will handle the tough shit.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:09 AM   #199
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Wow, that is such GREAT advice from a ****ing 23 year old!

Whew! I don't know what I'd do without it, you ****ing slimy ****.





The internet is FOREVER, Dumb****.
So now I'm 23? You really are mentally handicapped. I'm gonna go ahead and let you post the last words so that you are able to get off and go to sleep tonight Dane.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:11 AM   #200
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So now I'm 23? You really are mentally handicapped. I'm gonna go ahead and let you post the last words so that you are able to get off and go to sleep tonight Dane.
JFC. If you're older than 23, I feel for everyone in your immediate circle.

But I'm sure they sleep better knowing they have a War Hero badass to protect them.

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Old 01-29-2013, 12:12 AM   #201
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So now I'm 23? You really are mentally handicapped. I'm gonna go ahead and let you post the last words so that you are able to get off and go to sleep tonight Dane.
So what's the bet, two business owner?

What the ****? You backing off?

That's not a very good proposal, is it? What the **** kind of business do you run?

Oh yeah, how's that "mission to ban" me coming along?

Got your night vision goggles on?
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:14 AM   #202
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JFC. If you're older than 23, I feel for everyone in your immediate circle.

But I'm sure they sleep better knowing they have a War Hero badass to protect them.

And I'm sure your family sleeps soundly knowing they have an Internet tough guy, ready to fight any battle even if not his own. Lets take this fight to the web like men!
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:15 AM   #203
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And I'm sure your family sleeps soundly knowing they have an Internet tough guy, ready to fight any battle even if not his own. Lets take this fight to the web like men!
Pussy.

You can't even back up your shit. I can back mine up 100%.

Go to sleep, ****y.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:18 AM   #204
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You have made a complete ass of yourself by trying to intimidate me these last few weeks. I hope everyone that has read this sees who you are and what you have become.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:19 AM   #205
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Pussy.

You can't even back up your shit. I can back mine up 100%.

Go to sleep, ****y.
What do I need to back up? I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:19 AM   #206
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You have made a complete ass of yourself by trying to intimidate me these last few weeks. I hope everyone that has read this sees who you are and what you have become. Congrats on your 2 young children, I feel terribly sorry for the father they will grow up with.


Welcome to the 'Planet, n00b.

Thanks for showing your ass. I can assure you, the visual won't be forgotten.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:25 AM   #207
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What do I need to back up? I'm not sure what you're getting at.
You're ****ing stupid, bi-polar, drunk or just plain dumb.

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That's fine Dane. It's my mission from this point on to get you banned.
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I'd be willing to bet you've fumbled thru life with little, to no success. You have some serious ****ing issues.
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The fact that you talk down about someone being in the military tells the entire story.

Like I said, until you want to step up and say something to my face...shut the **** up you Internet pussy. You worthless piece of dog shit. I bet you take Viagra just so you don't have feel your own limp dick when you jack off 6 times a day. You're a lonely old ****** that craves attention from people you will never meet.
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I refuse to let someone talk down about the time I spent serving this country while you sat at your computer in women's clothes eating cheetohs while going back and forth from chiefs planet to youporn.
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Probably Danes kids
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I'm sure they will work for me one day. Internet Pussy
Clearly, I'm the instigator.

**** you.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:58 AM   #208
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As someone who's fumbled through life with little to no success, I'm insulted by being categorized with Dane in any way.
im in the same boat, i wish i could have as little success as dane
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