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Old 01-27-2013, 08:31 PM  
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Obama's NLRB "recess" appointments invalid

I looked and didn't see a thread on this... you guys are dropping the ball!

So, it looks like every NLRB decision since January of 2012 will be invalidated. This is a VERY HEALTHY slap in the face to Obama's constant abuse of executive power.

Here is a great article on it

http://communities.washingtontimes.c...ointments-unc/

Any thoughts?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:06 AM   #106
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What Direckshun has failed to say in the midst of all of his wrongheaded ignorant ranting is this... Obama didn't just follow some long held precedent of making recess appointments. He instead decided that he would circumvent the Senate and decide for HIMSELF when they were and weren't in recess.
It was a bold move because the other option was to sit there and do nothing and have the NLRB board get shut down anyway through the intrasingence of Senate Republicans. His choices were to sit on his thumb, get nothing done, and allow Senate Republicans to shut down the NLRB, or make this move, make the NLRB board functional and effective, and risk the legal challenge. At the very worst, the President will end up exactly where he'd be anyway.

A "pro forma" session is, in actuality, a recess with two douchebags banging a gavel every other day for minutes at a time. The issue's not nearly as clear you believe it to be, as usual.

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GOING AGAINST previous precedent in the matter and most obviously going against the Constitution.
Previous practice, maybe. Far as I know, there's no judicial precedent on the issue.

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He also acts as if the Senate's pro forma sessions was some brand new tactic.
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Where was your outcry when Reid was using the same tactic? ****ing partisan hypocrite.
Wrong.

It'd be hypocritical if I was arguing at the time that a similar move by Bush was unconstitutional.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:06 AM   #107
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Without looking it up... anyone want to guess who this quote is from? (It's not Reid or Obama, that would be too obvious)
You posted it earlier in the thread.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:35 PM   #108
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What Direckshun has failed to say in the midst of all of his wrongheaded ignorant ranting is this... Obama didn't just follow some long held precedent of making recess appointments. He instead decided that he would circumvent the Senate and decide for HIMSELF when they were and weren't in recess. GOING AGAINST previous precedent in the matter and most obviously going against the Constitution.

He also acts as if the Senate's pro forma sessions was some brand new tactic. This has been used for years to block recess appointments.

So quit trying to act as if what the court did was some massive change of the game. OBAMA brought this on himself with his illegal expansion of executive powers. Even Evil President Bush abided by these rules when Reid used pro forma sessions to block him.

Where was your outcry when Reid was using the same tactic? ****ing partisan hypocrite.
How long has this pro forma tactic been used?

I thought the article stated that Harry Reid was the first leader to do it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:44 PM   #109
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Yes I would definitely consider bypassing the constitution a bold move.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:01 PM   #110
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How long has this pro forma tactic been used?

I thought the article stated that Harry Reid was the first leader to do it.
Without researching it, my understanding is that Reid was the first to use it FOR THIS PURPOSE... but the practice has been around for ages.

What Direckshun wants is for the Executive Branch to be able to interpret Senate rules in any way that meets their needs. A dangerous and stupid idea. Par for the course for him.
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I'm shocked to find out that we have people willing to defend Obama on this.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:45 AM   #112
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What Direckshun wants is for the Executive Branch to be able to interpret Senate rules in any way that meets their needs.
Swing and a miss.

Par course for you.
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Without researching it, my understanding is that Reid was the first to use it FOR THIS PURPOSE... but the practice has been around for ages.

What Direckshun wants is for the Executive Branch to be able to interpret Senate rules in any way that meets their needs. A dangerous and stupid idea. Par for the course for him.
You are way too enthusiastic about this.

Seems like a lot of people are getting paid by the taxpayer to not get anything productive done.

I would not be surprised if the final ruling on this will be that the reason for the recess clause was that at the time of the Framers travel to Congress took a long time depending on the state, and the recess appointment power was included by the framers because of those travel considerations to prevent vacant offices.

I doubt they contemplated this idea of pro forma sessions being a way to keep offices vacant, because they thought it necessary to fill vacancies that arose when most of the Senators were out of town.

Just a stupid pissin' contest that is wasting a lot of taxpayer money if you ask me.
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