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Obama's NLRB "recess" appointments invalid
I looked and didn't see a thread on this... you guys are dropping the ball!
So, it looks like every NLRB decision since January of 2012 will be invalidated. This is a VERY HEALTHY slap in the face to Obama's constant abuse of executive power. Here is a great article on it http://communities.washingtontimes.c...ointments-unc/ Any thoughts? |
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I am sure that vast majority, you allege, suffer from the some lust for power and are in the pockets of those who want to use govt for their own ends. Government and it's minions, cannot be trusted to judge where the powers end and begin. This is an age old and timeless problem. Please name them, and allow the other side to name those who disagree with them. I take it you'll cite Laurence Tribe or someone. I assure you, that if you read the notes from the original Convention and some statements from some of the ratifying conventions—you can't possibly take the view of any "living Constitution" scholar the way it's been used as a living document. There's even Constitutional scholars, who support abortion, but feel Roe v Wade was bad law. Quote:
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cosmos, nor anyone else, gets to call something obsolete on this issue because it's the senate that gets to make it's operational rules, not a president. A president cannot determine this for the senate.
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I'm calling the operational rules (the pro forma session) a sham. I'm calling the clause in the Constitution about recess appointments obsolete.
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You don't get to change it at will even if it's obsolete. You change it with an amendment. Other than that, it's just your OPINION that it's a sham. Fact is that the Senate still gets to make it's operational rules NOT the President. There is NO delegated power for the President to make such a rule change for another branch. That destroys the checks and balances, which is never obsolete—unless you want a dictatorship. Checks and balances are NOT obsolete. Taking powers is NOT obsolete which is what you are calling for.
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Did you say something?
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What's next, the 2nd Amendment?
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Most of the Constitution is obsolete to these guys. It's in their way.
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I don't think I'd adopt cosmo's stronger language that the clause is a "sham."
I'd just say that the practical application of it has evolved as Senatorial treatment of recesses has evolved. I'd say the same thing about the 2nd amendment -- as our weaponry evolves, as does the application of the 2nd. |
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We do. We also can often change it through executive action. We also change it judicially constantly.
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JFC we need a neutron bomb for internal enemies in this country. We should just ignore your right to any due process beforehand as well because we can change it. Or would that be a right to stopping a imminent attack. We passed that danger point years ago.
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From an article a year ago right after this ridiculous travesty happened.
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BOOM. Going to be tough to get around this. Oh and just a nice bonus... this also invalidates Cordray's appointment as the first head of the CFPB, which probably means that every action taken by them is now invalid. |
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