General Politics "The GOP is dead!" - say what???? - Page 4

Prison Bitch · 01-27-2013, 04:11 PM

I'm curious to know why this keeps getting thrown out there. Obviously, the leftwing media is pushing the meme as hard as they can. That's the main culprit. But I'm wondering why all these GOP folks are bashing the party (Christie, Jindal, Powell, etc) and saying it "has to change".

Fact: the Presidential election was won by the incumbent. Like it nearly always is. Like nearly all elections are and have been. But many people seem shocked by it. If we look at the Conressional elections for the House, the vote was essentially even at 53 million per Party. How is that a landslide in terms of voter preference?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2096978.html

Fact: In 2014, Democrats hold 9 of the top 10 Senate seats projected to have the highest likelihood of switching. You can probably add Iowa to that list now with Harkin leaving:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ough-2014-map/

Here's the current tally of US Leadership:

1) The GOP has a 230-200 lead in the House with a 54-46% lead in reps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_U...tates_Congress

2) The GOP has 30 Governorships now, their highest total since 34 during the 1920s:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/06/politi...ces/index.html

3) The GOP has a 31-17 advantage in State Houses, with a 55-44% lead in State Reps:
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph...f_state_houses

4) The GOP has a 28-19 advantage in State Senates, with 52-44% lead in total Senators:
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph..._state_senates

Net: If you want to talk about a bad time for the GOP, the 1930s and the 1960s (look at the carnage here after the 1964 elections: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/89th_Un...tates_Congress). Those were terrible times. Totally shut out of power at every level of Federal & State government. But that is hardly the case today. The gnashing of teeth may stop at any moment.

BucEyedPea · 01-27-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

The Dems were just as bad in CA and Il. Indisputable. Maybe te Dems shouldn't have been cleaned out so badly in 2010 everywhere.

Precisely! Advantages of incumbency which Obama had too. Like covering up Benghazi and not talking guns.

Direckshun · 01-27-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

If they'd drop the idiotic, backward, irrelevant moralizing

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Originally Posted by Brock

the breeding poor

Go Chiefs.

suzzer99 · 01-27-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Not a million. Half that. Which is half a point difference. Which is my point, it was essentially a tie. Thanks.

You may be the most obtuse person on the DC forum, which is really saying something.

stevieray · 01-27-2013, 09:56 PM

it deserves to die...this country isn't conservative.

couple it with white gulit, and it's a slam dunk.

BucEyedPea · 01-27-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

They're not losing a bunch of elections though. See the first post. They're winning plenty of elections, you just don't want to hear it.

Let them gloat and choke on hubris. We hear this every time they win. Then things change again.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-27-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Not dead. Just stuck in the past. If they'd drop the idiotic, backward, irrelevant moralizing, and just stick with a message based in financial logic (which I don't think they truly believe in, demonstrably), I'd be more or less on board with them.

This.

Prison Bitch · 01-27-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

it deserves to die...this country isn't conservative.

couple it with white gulit, and it's a slam dunk.

According to Gallup, conservatives more than double liberals and have for eons of polling data. Something like 42 percent claim to be conservative and 35 or so moderate. The issue for the GOP is that they didn't drive out these folks while Obama did his. In 2012 he narrowed the gap to only 10 points and won moderates. The GOP shot themselves in the ass when they failed as a party I. The W years.

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2013, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

According to Gallup, conservatives more than double liberals and have for eons of polling data. Something like 42 percent claim to be conservative and 35 or so moderate. The issue for the GOP is that they didn't drive out these folks while Obama did his. In 2012 he narrowed the gap to only 10 points and won moderates. The GOP shot themselves in the ass when they failed as a party I. The W years.

Obama didn't win as many moderates as he did in 2008 though. Did you see the poll on being disappointed in the choices and how things never change but things go on the same?* Pretty indicting. Most of them were on the right-leaning side too. Then you have to figure that there WAS fraud. So it had to really be a very close election—not the comfortable margin Obama received.

Let them gloat though. That's a good thing to think they're comfortable. Although, I have read Bill Clinton warned the Democrats to not talk down to America's gun culture or they'll pay for it.

* I forget where I saw that but it was in a major news source. Think it may have been CNN but I'd have to search my history to confirm and don't have time today. I am just finishing up my morning coffee.

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

This.

Why are you a member then? I think your views, when a few manage to creep out from the peanut gallery, are more fitting for membership in the Democratic party.

cosmo20002 · 01-28-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Obama didn't win as many moderates as he did in 2008 though. Did you see the poll on being disappointed in the choices and how things never change but things go on the same?* Pretty indicting. Most of them were on the right-leaning side too. Then you have to figure that there WAS fraud. So it had to really be a very close election—not the comfortable margin Obama received.

You keep saying this but will never back it up. You're full of shit, and clearly a freaking nut since you continue to make assertions that you can't support.

Still waiting...

cosmo20002 · 01-28-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

You keep saying this but will never back it up. You're full of shit, and clearly a freaking nut since you continue to make assertions that you can't support.

Still waiting...

So, BEP--you got anything?

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2013, 01:15 PM

Did you say something? You're on ignore...except where I decide to look to follow something I want to.

Amnorix · 01-28-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Did you say something? You're on ignore...except where I decide to look to follow something I want to.

English....you're not doing it right.

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2013, 01:19 PM

I never claimed I wrote well...but the opposite. You understood it though.

Somehow, all my ignores fell out. You were on it for a long time too.

cosmo20002 · 01-28-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Did you say something? You're on ignore...except where I decide to look to follow something I want to.

You're such a freaking loon.

01-27-2013, 04:11 PM
Prison Bitch Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Lees summit Casino cash: $19387	"The GOP is dead!" - say what???? I'm curious to know why this keeps getting thrown out there. Obviously, the leftwing media is pushing the meme as hard as they can. That's the main culprit. But I'm wondering why all these GOP folks are bashing the party (Christie, Jindal, Powell, etc) and saying it "has to change". Fact: the Presidential election was won by the incumbent. Like it nearly always is. Like nearly all elections are and have been. But many people seem shocked by it. If we look at the Conressional elections for the House, the vote was essentially even at 53 million per Party. How is that a landslide in terms of voter preference? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2096978.html Fact: In 2014, Democrats hold 9 of the top 10 Senate seats projected to have the highest likelihood of switching. You can probably add Iowa to that list now with Harkin leaving: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ough-2014-map/ Here's the current tally of US Leadership: 1) The GOP has a 230-200 lead in the House with a 54-46% lead in reps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_U...tates_Congress 2) The GOP has 30 Governorships now, their highest total since 34 during the 1920s: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/06/politi...ces/index.html 3) The GOP has a 31-17 advantage in State Houses, with a 55-44% lead in State Reps: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph...f_state_houses 4) The GOP has a 28-19 advantage in State Senates, with 52-44% lead in total Senators: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph..._state_senates Net: If you want to talk about a bad time for the GOP, the 1930s and the 1960s (look at the carnage here after the 1964 elections: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/89th_Un...tates_Congress). Those were terrible times. Totally shut out of power at every level of Federal & State government. But that is hardly the case today. The gnashing of teeth may stop at any moment.
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01-27-2013, 09:56 PM	#49
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01-28-2013, 01:19 PM	#59
BucEyedPea Frazod Loves Hammy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: None of your business Casino cash: $48543	I never claimed I wrote well...but the opposite. You understood it though. Somehow, all my ignores fell out. You were on it for a long time too. __________________ "In government, the scum rises to the top."~ Hayek
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