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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:04 PM   #16
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I've been hearing that Tavares has been tearing up winterball pitching in the Dominican Republic.
Won rookie of the year for Winter ball 2013.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:29 PM   #17
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Won rookie of the year for Winter ball 2013.
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A lot to be happy about for the future. Albert who?

In all seriousness, I'm a Chiefs fan, Iowa fan, and Cardinals fan growing up. Thank goodness for the Cards; the only team that is routinely successful!
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A lot to be happy about for the future. Albert who?

In all seriousness, I'm a Chiefs fan, Iowa fan, and Cardinals fan growing up. Thank goodness for the Cards; the only team that is routinely successful!
The last two years being a fan of a team that doesn't quit, comes from behind and plays with some grit, didn't suck either. A lot of other teams fans were sure jealous of the way our team played the game. wished their team played like ours.
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Let's not count our chickens yet. I lurked last year; you got a little too cocksure during the LCS .
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Let's not count our chickens yet. I lurked last year; you got a little too cocksure during the LCS .
yeah, its my fault.I should be on Mo's payroll if this is true, correct?

Nothing will ever surprise with this team again. Every time we think they are done, they make an improbable run the playoffs.

And Trevor Rosenthal spent the winter working out with Chris Carpenter in STL. Just how awesomely cool is that? Talk about getting started the right way? And a bonus.....Waino is buddying up with Shelby Miller. The torch is passing....
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That's just damned impressive for a 21-year old.
Hope he makes the team out of spring training but waiting another year wouldn't be so bad. We would get a minimum of 6 full years instead of loosing one year to part time play.

If he is as advertised, we won't be able to keep him after 6 years.
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Looks like Mo is going to bring in Ronny Cedeno for Furcal's backup

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...5a9b2533c.html
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Somehow a facepalm doesn't even seem sufficient.

Everything we do is just underwhelming. We gave Randy Choate 3 years when Mike Gonzalez could've been had for cheaper and without a 3 year commitment. We gave Wigginton $6 million over 2 only to see the Cubs get Hairston, a far better hitter against lefties AND a capable defender for $7 million over 2.

Now we go after this yutz as our 'competition' and insurance in case of Furcal's back injury.

Moe's plan appears to be praying that all the pitchers that Luhnow drafted for him come through in spades.
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I think Hairston was waiting the market out, trying to get a bigger contract. He just ran out of teams, but it seems like he was seeking a much bigger contract than what he got. Heck, it seems like they gave Choate nearly as much as Burnett got, just 1 less year.
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MLB.com announce the top outfield prospects in all of baseball. Who's #1?

Talk about setting the bar high. Last year's Top 10 outfielders list was led by the two players who ended up as the Rookies of the Year. Bryce Harper of the Nationals and Mike Trout of the Angels obviously have graduated, but this year's Top 10 outfielders list has a ton of future rookie-award candidates on it. And there are some new names, with only three outfielders returning from 2012.


1. Oscar Taveras, Cardinals: The Cardinals' signing of Taveras out of the Dominican Republic in 2008 for a mere $145,000 could go down as one the biggest bargains in recent memory. Perhaps the best pure hitter in the Minors, Taveras handled a double jump to Double-A last season by going to the Futures Game and earning Texas League Player of the Year honors. Taveras has done nothing but hit for plenty of average, and the power continues to come, along with improved plate discipline. He has everything to be an All-Star-caliber outfielder who hits in the middle of a big league lineup for years.

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