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Old 01-18-2013, 04:27 PM  
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Do you favor universal background checks?

Ninety-two percent of Americans favor background checks for all potential gun buyers, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll.

Universal background checks are one of the proposals that President Obama has called on Congress to pass as part of his proposal to combat gun violence in the wake of the massacre in a Newtown, Conn., elementary school in December.

Licensed gun dealers already must run background checks, but unlicensed dealers and private sellers, many of whom sell guns at gun shows or over the internet, are not required to do so.

Support for universal background checks went across party lines:
89 percent of Republicans
93 percent of Democrats and Independents were in favor
93 percent of gun households
85 percent of those living in a household with a member of the National Rifle Association

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_16...ground-checks/

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:13 PM   #31
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There should've been these checks a long time ago, anytime you buy something like that you should have to get checked... its not complicated and if you have nothing to hide you shouldnt be concerned.

I'm 100% for any law abiding american being able to own anything on the market, but this is just common sense 101 stuff.

No, criminals dont need it because much of their stock comes off the street... but the "criminals wont use it" angle is a big fat strawman, it has nothing to do with it.
It has EVERYTHING to do with it. JFC, are people really this stupid? I thought the idea was to keep guns out of the criminals' hands, now you're saying that isn't the issue. What pray tell is the issue then?

Un****ingbelievable....
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:16 PM   #32
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What's your plan? Fall for knee jerk reactions?
Making sure that a check is done on someone before they buy a weapon, be it at Cabelas or a gun show is knee-jerk? yeah right.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:17 PM   #33
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Enforcement is always a problem with anything. There's no law where someone couldn't say, "Well, the criminals aren't going to follow it." Doesn't mean we don't have laws. Although that idea sounds appealing to the fringe, it is not a reasonable stance for people who want to live in a civilized society.
I'm sorry, but buying a gun does not equate to say raping someone. Your point is pure fail.

These laws ONLY affect the non-criminal. Which renders completely pointless.



Unless of course the idea is turn the non-criminal into a criminal.....
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:18 PM   #34
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It has EVERYTHING to do with it. JFC, are people really this stupid? I thought the idea was to keep guns out of the criminals' hands, now you're saying that isn't the issue. What pray tell is the issue then?

Un****ingbelievable....
He is another uniformed idiot entering the arena of discussion like countless others making knee jerk reactions~
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:20 PM   #35
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It has EVERYTHING to do with it. JFC, are people really this stupid? I thought the idea was to keep guns out of the criminals' hands, now you're saying that isn't the issue. What pray tell is the issue then?

Un****ingbelievable....
Yeah, it IS un****ingbelievable... what you're saying.

A good way to make sure criminals dont get a large percentage of them is to MAKE SURE THEY CANT BUY THEM BY USING A BACKGROUND CHECK.

Go ahead and chase your tails in this ****ing thread, what a zoo.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:20 PM   #36
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Enforcement is always a problem with anything. There's no law where someone couldn't say, "Well, the criminals aren't going to follow it." Doesn't mean we don't have laws. Although that idea sounds appealing to the fringe, it is not a reasonable stance for people who want to live in a civilized society.
I can agree with that. But when creating regulations like this, it absolutely must be determined whether the regulation will be effective for what it's intended for, as opposed to just a detriment to law abiding citizens. We're still focusing on the criminal right? There has to be some level of enforceability and confidence it will work.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:20 PM   #37
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He is another uniformed idiot entering the arena of discussion like countless others making knee jerk reactions~
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:21 PM   #38
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Yeah, it IS un****ingbelievable... what you're saying.

A good way to make sure criminals dont get a large percentage of them is to MAKE SURE THEY CANT BUY THEM BY USING A BACKGROUND CHECK.

Go ahead and chase your tails in this ****ing thread, what a zoo.
cmon man..criminals are going to submit themselves to a background check?


...this country is on the brink of idiocy.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:22 PM   #39
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Making sure that a check is done on someone before they buy a weapon, be it at Cabelas or a gun show is knee-jerk? yeah right.
**** off seriously, your strawman response excuses you from the conversation~
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:23 PM   #40
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Yeah, it IS un****ingbelievable... what you're saying.

A good way to make sure criminals dont get a large percentage of them is to MAKE SURE THEY CANT BUY THEM BY USING A BACKGROUND CHECK.

Go ahead and chase your tails in this ****ing thread, what a zoo.
because criminals get their guns at Cabela's. You fail at basic logic.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:23 PM   #41
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Yeah, it IS un****ingbelievable... what you're saying.

A good way to make sure criminals dont get a large percentage of them is to MAKE SURE THEY CANT BUY THEM BY USING A BACKGROUND CHECK.

Go ahead and chase your tails in this ****ing thread, what a zoo.
Yeah, because the black market dealer on the street is going to run background checks on his hoodlum customers to make sure he can sell to them.

These laws do NOT hinder criminal gun purchases. Anyone who believes so is nothing short of a moron. Sorry but, that is the short of it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:26 PM   #42
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because criminals get their guns at Cabela's. You fail at basic logic.
Uh...it...uh...prevents...uh...new criminals...I think...
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Look, if nothing else a check before being able to purchase will keep non-criminal but people with perhaps a history of mental illness from being able to buy them.

Of course real criminals will skirt any measure brought out, but there are a whole slew of people out there who, while they may not have a criminal record, still have no business owning a firearm.

ITS NOT a cure all, and i never said that... on the other hand, its just a damn check, you have to have one at Cabelas, so why not the gun show?
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:29 PM   #44
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Uh...it...uh...prevents...uh...new criminals...I think...
No, it just creates more criminals once people get fed up with the bullshit and start going around the background checks. It will happen.
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