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Old 01-09-2013, 03:17 PM  
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Obama to issue executive order regarding guns?

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Vice President Joe Biden is meeting with victims of gun violence today. Speaking with reporters beforehand, Biden said President Obama may use an executive order to push through more gun control and Second Amendment restrictions. More from the Weekly Standard.

"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

We knew this was coming. The White House has been saying for a month that they are acting "quickly" on new gun control measures. Senator Dianne Feinstein's sweeping new gun control legislation hasn't even been introduced yet and Obama isn't the kind of president who has shown a willingness to wait on Congress.

If Obama pushes through new regulations using executive powers, the process will unfold in different parts. After an order is signed, the Department of Justice led by Attorney General Eric Holder, will be in charge of enforcement through the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. Now, how far the order will go is the big question. You can bet it will ban semi-automatic rifles and large ammunition magazines, but how Obama grandfathers in old, lawfully purchases semi-automatic rifles remains unknown. Will he require citizens who already own these weapons to be fingerprinted as Feinstein's bill requires? Or will he go so far as confiscation as New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has suggested? Time will tell.
Can the SCOTUS overturn an executive order? (at work and don't hav ethe time to look it up)
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:18 PM   #76
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Yeah that aint happening.

I'm talking about reinstating the assault weapons ban or 30 round mags.
Which, if true, is pretty stupid to not have done already.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:21 PM   #77
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Which, if true, is pretty stupid to not have done already.
Oh oh, now you did it. Nice knowing you.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:27 PM   #78
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Really? Did he tell you this in his last cabinet meeting? ****ing moron. You have no idea what he's going to do.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:27 PM   #79
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Has anyone seen the Gun Hater's long list?

Under this section ...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/th...#ixzz2HXDRCFsO
Actually there's something REALLY weird with that list....WAY too many companies in KS and MO. They are overrepresented than places on the coast and the NY teams aren't listed???

Something really doesn't add up.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:28 PM   #80
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sign an executive order instructing federal agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.
Not sure an EO is truly necessary, but it would score political points on both sides of the debate. Leftist gun-haters could say their president took action and made the world a safer place for flowers, drum circles, and hairy legged "women", while the gun-toters get what they've been calling for: concentration on enforcing existing laws.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:31 PM   #81
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I don't want him to ban all guns. My friends have guns, I've shot guns, I appreciate a story where someone has defended themselves with guns. I just don't care if the person whose clit gets hard when they fire off 30 rounds in 30 secs isn't allowed to purchase more of that type of equipment, has to sign a paper saying they have that equipment, or has to tell someone if they give that equipment to someone else.
meanwhile this govt that requires all of the meaningless registration will turn right around and ship fully automatic assault weapons, rocket launchers, hand grenades you name it, across Mexican borders and into the hands of KNOWN criminals. But let's punish the lawful gun owners of America because a few drugged up nutcases gets a hold of a semi auto and opens fire in a gun-free zone.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:44 PM   #82
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meanwhile this govt that requires all of the meaningless registration will turn right around and ship fully automatic assault weapons, rocket launchers, hand grenades you name it, across Mexican borders and into the hands of KNOWN criminals. But let's punish the lawful gun owners of America because a few drugged up nutcases gets a hold of a semi auto and opens fire in a gun-free zone.
FaF was a botched attempt at tracking gun/drug dealers. Fault them for that if you like, but it has nothing to do with this debate.

Yeah, that meaningless registration that found the woman that bought the guns for the nut that killed fire fighters.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:52 PM   #83
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FaF was a botched attempt at tracking gun/drug dealers. Fault them for that if you like, but it has nothing to do with this debate.

Yeah, that meaningless registration that found the woman that bought the guns for the nut that killed fire fighters.
The administration and liberal mainstream media turned right around and blamed the 2nd amendment for it, lied about killing US border patrol agent(s). You can call it a botched operation for tacking guns all you want, but the federal govt/CIA has been drug/gun running across US/Mexican borders for decades. This isn't anything different than what GWB did, or what the Clinton's did, or any other admin before them.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:55 PM   #84
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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...ntrol-n1485645



Can the SCOTUS overturn an executive order? (at work and don't hav ethe time to look it up)
An executive order is not a law. The Constitution is clear on how laws are passed. An executive order can be directed at his sphere of influence...Cabinet, Depts, and such.

If he did such a thing it would be challenged in court and likely lead to the restricting of the executive branch. I dare him to.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:56 PM   #85
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The administration and liberal mainstream media turned right around and blamed the 2nd amendment for it, lied about killing US border patrol agent(s). You can call it a botched operation for tacking guns all you want, but the federal govt/CIA has been drug/gun running across US/Mexican borders for decades. This isn't anything different than what GWB did, or what the Clinton's did, or any other admin before them.
Cool story sis.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:00 PM   #86
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The administration and liberal mainstream media turned right around and blamed the 2nd amendment for it, lied about killing US border patrol agent(s). You can call it a botched operation for tacking guns all you want, but the federal govt/CIA has been drug/gun running across US/Mexican borders for decades. This isn't anything different than what GWB did, or what the Clinton's did, or any other admin before them.
So, what you are saying is that F&F is irrelevant to this thread.
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So if we banned "assault weapons" we would reduce the murder rate by what, 1%??? WOW!
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Perhaps we should ban alcohol too? There were 10,500+ people killed by drunk drivers in 2011 compared to 8,500+ people killed by firearms
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So if we banned "assault weapons" we would reduce the murder rate by what, 1%??? WOW!
Think "comprehensive." 1% here, 3% there...
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:35 PM   #90
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Think "comprehensive." 1% here, 3% there...
What % of gun murders are via rifle?
What % of murders are via guns of any type?

So the ban of "assault rifles", an unofficial title, serves what purpose again?
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