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Old 01-09-2013, 03:17 PM  
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Obama to issue executive order regarding guns?

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Vice President Joe Biden is meeting with victims of gun violence today. Speaking with reporters beforehand, Biden said President Obama may use an executive order to push through more gun control and Second Amendment restrictions. More from the Weekly Standard.

"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

We knew this was coming. The White House has been saying for a month that they are acting "quickly" on new gun control measures. Senator Dianne Feinstein's sweeping new gun control legislation hasn't even been introduced yet and Obama isn't the kind of president who has shown a willingness to wait on Congress.

If Obama pushes through new regulations using executive powers, the process will unfold in different parts. After an order is signed, the Department of Justice led by Attorney General Eric Holder, will be in charge of enforcement through the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. Now, how far the order will go is the big question. You can bet it will ban semi-automatic rifles and large ammunition magazines, but how Obama grandfathers in old, lawfully purchases semi-automatic rifles remains unknown. Will he require citizens who already own these weapons to be fingerprinted as Feinstein's bill requires? Or will he go so far as confiscation as New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has suggested? Time will tell.
Can the SCOTUS overturn an executive order? (at work and don't hav ethe time to look it up)
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:17 PM   #46
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and @ more hyperventilating and the lack of knowledge on how our government functions.

Take a ****ing civics course dumbasses.
Maybe you should read a ****ing history book once in a while, too.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:19 PM   #47
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Maybe you should read a ****ing history book once in a while, too.
Ok conspiretard.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:19 PM   #48
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it is absolutely their business. obama is attempting to bypass congress to limit your constitutional rights. he is circumventing checks and balances on a whole new level. this is unacceptable, and should be grounds for impeachment.
Did something happen or are you talking about something that has only occured in your mind?
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:23 PM   #49
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So what pre-existing law bans the weapons mentioned? The previous ban expired over a decade ago. Since it was not renewed by Congress, and subsequently signed into law as a permanent ban, it is clearly the will of the people, and their representatives, that these weapons are legal under the second amendment. An executive order taking these weapons away is a direct violation of the constitution, existing laws passed by Congress, and the will of the people. Obama is trying to circumvent the legislative process, plain and simple.
Seriously--what the **** are you talking about? What has he done?
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:28 PM   #50
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Why don't you just admit it, you want barry to ban guns.
I don't want him to ban all guns. My friends have guns, I've shot guns, I appreciate a story where someone has defended themselves with guns. I just don't care if the person whose clit gets hard when they fire off 30 rounds in 30 secs isn't allowed to purchase more of that type of equipment, has to sign a paper saying they have that equipment, or has to tell someone if they give that equipment to someone else.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:31 PM   #51
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Seriously--what the **** are you talking about? What has he done?
Seriously, you don't know already? He repealed the welfare reform under Clinton using an EU for one.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:35 PM   #52
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Seriously, you don't know already? He repealed the welfare reform under Clinton using an EU for one.
Funny you mention something that isn't even true. Anyway, the rant came in the context of some imaginary Obama gun ban--that he's circumventing the legislative process. Just wondering if I missed it on the news because I didn't see anything about a gun ban today.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:36 PM   #53
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Seriously--what the **** are you talking about? What has he done?
Reading comprehension fail. The discussion is about Obama using executive orders to circumvent the 2nd Amendment. By using an executive order to ban certain types of weapons that are currently legal under the law, he would be circumventing the legislative process and violating the expressed will of the people.

Try to keep up.
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Funny you mention something that isn't even true. Anyway, the rant came in the context of some imaginary Obama gun ban--that he's circumventing the legislative process. Just wondering if I missed it on the news because I didn't see anything about a gun ban today.
Is it imaginary if Joe Biden is talking about it, dumb shit?
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:38 PM   #55
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Reading comprehension fail. The discussion is about Obama using executive orders to circumvent the 2nd Amendment. By using an executive order to ban certain types of weapons that are currently legal under the law, he would be circumventing the legislative process and violating the expressed will of the people.

Try to keep up.
An IMAGINARY EO. It didn't actually happen. If, if, if...
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An IMAGINARY EO. It didn't actually happen. If, if, if...
No one is saying that it has yet. However, Joe Biden has spoken of it as a possibility, hence the discussion.

Again, try to keep up.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:39 PM   #57
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Is it imaginary if Joe Biden is talking about it, dumb shit?
I'd say about 50/50.

But yes, the thing several of you are spazzing about is imaginary. You're making up details and then freaking out about what you've created.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:42 PM   #58
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Biden floating the idea was just to test the waters.

Obama the weasel doesn't have the nuts.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:43 PM   #59
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No one is saying that it has yet. However, Joe Biden has spoken of it as a possibility, hence the discussion.

Again, try to keep up.
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Obama is trying to circumvent the legislative process, plain and simple.
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Biden floating the idea was just to test the waters.

Obama the weasel doesn't have the nuts.
Nicely done. So either Obama is a traitor by using an EO to repeal the 2nd Am, or if he doesn't, it is because he is too much of a wimp.
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