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Old 01-09-2013, 04:17 PM  
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Obama to issue executive order regarding guns?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...ntrol-n1485645

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Vice President Joe Biden is meeting with victims of gun violence today. Speaking with reporters beforehand, Biden said President Obama may use an executive order to push through more gun control and Second Amendment restrictions. More from the Weekly Standard.

"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

We knew this was coming. The White House has been saying for a month that they are acting "quickly" on new gun control measures. Senator Dianne Feinstein's sweeping new gun control legislation hasn't even been introduced yet and Obama isn't the kind of president who has shown a willingness to wait on Congress.

If Obama pushes through new regulations using executive powers, the process will unfold in different parts. After an order is signed, the Department of Justice led by Attorney General Eric Holder, will be in charge of enforcement through the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. Now, how far the order will go is the big question. You can bet it will ban semi-automatic rifles and large ammunition magazines, but how Obama grandfathers in old, lawfully purchases semi-automatic rifles remains unknown. Will he require citizens who already own these weapons to be fingerprinted as Feinstein's bill requires? Or will he go so far as confiscation as New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has suggested? Time will tell.
Can the SCOTUS overturn an executive order? (at work and don't hav ethe time to look it up)
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:03 PM   #31
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Well, Obama would be breaking the law if he used one to craft law because the Constitution doesn't empower him to craft legislation and he would be mis-using an EO to cut out Congress. The Constitution is puts this power with the legislature not the executive branch. In this case he'd be infringing the Bill of Rights even.
It wouldn't be "crafting" law. It would be issuing an order that clarified the executive branch's position of a pre-existing law passed by Congress.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:36 PM   #32
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:42 PM   #33
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Is anyone not surprised at this?

I said this years ago that in Barry's second term he was going to destroy the 2nd Amendment.

Well, here we go.

Civil War. Just like I said. You'll see.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:44 PM   #34
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It wouldn't be "crafting" law. It would be issuing an order that clarified the executive branch's position of a pre-existing law passed by Congress.
So what pre-existing law bans the weapons mentioned? The previous ban expired over a decade ago. Since it was not renewed by Congress, and subsequently signed into law as a permanent ban, it is clearly the will of the people, and their representatives, that these weapons are legal under the second amendment. An executive order taking these weapons away is a direct violation of the constitution, existing laws passed by Congress, and the will of the people. Obama is trying to circumvent the legislative process, plain and simple.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:44 PM   #35
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It's a bit early to start suggesting impeachment, when all we have now is Joe Biden's bloviating. Let's at least wait and see what EO he issues, if he issues one at all.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:46 PM   #36
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Just heard a story about this on the radio on the way home. OCommie's going to announce his master plan as early as next week. Should be fun.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:58 PM   #37
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It's a bit early to start suggesting impeachment, when all we have now is Joe Biden's bloviating. Let's at least wait and see what EO he issues, if he issues one at all.
Okay I can buy that. But the children will be watching papa.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:02 PM   #38
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People are acting like he's going to ban all guns. He may stop sales of barbie dolls and make everyone catalog the ones they have, but people will still be able to keep them, and gi joes big and small will still be available for sale.
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People are acting like he's going to ban all guns. He may stop sales of barbie dolls and make everyone catalog the ones they have, but people will still be able to keep them, and gi joes big and small will still be available for sale.
Just because he's gonna leave us squirt guns doesn't make it right either.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:04 PM   #40
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People are acting like he's going to ban all guns. He may stop sales of barbie dolls and make everyone catalog the ones they have, but people will still be able to keep them, and gi joes big and small will still be available for sale.
Really? Did he tell you this in his last cabinet meeting? ****ing moron. You have no idea what he's going to do.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:10 PM   #41
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It's a bit early to start suggesting impeachment, when all we have now is Joe Biden's bloviating. Let's at least wait and see what EO he issues, if he issues one at all.
This.

Obama is an astute politician. I put the chances of this happening at less than 10%.
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and @ more hyperventilating and the lack of knowledge on how our government functions.

Take a ****ing civics course dumbasses.
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Really? Did he tell you this in his last cabinet meeting? ****ing moron. You have no idea what he's going to do.
Let's just call it a hunch that he won't be banning all guns. And hey your right, he may not touch what can be sold and leave that for congress. Maybe he'll address how guns are sold, and/or hopefully order for functional national databases of guns and people that should not have them.
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and @ more hyperventilating and the lack of knowledge on how our government functions.

Take a ****ing civics course dumbasses.
It would be nice if boy king barry took a civics course when he was skating through harvard as an affirmative action stooge.
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Let's just call it a hunch that he won't be banning all guns.
Why don't you just admit it, you want barry to ban guns.
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