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Old 01-04-2013, 11:27 PM  
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Mellinger: Hunt Should Take a Bow for His Moves to Save Chiefs

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Old 01-05-2013, 07:18 AM   #31
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The Reid hire is a step in the right direction, but I'm mostly impressed by Clark admitting his mistake and dropping a shit ton of coin to clean house. As someone who is a fan of both teams in the parking lot, constantly hearing about the OH NOES THA MONEYYY! taxes me as a fan literally and figuratively. What it cost Clark to fumigate Arrowhead and what it's going to cost to restaff it does not go unnoticed by me.
So we go from being pissed off as hell at a guy who was nearly 26.6 million below salary cap to elated and nut sack dangling because he dropped a cool few million to get rid of a problem he helped create?
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:18 AM   #32
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FTR I never referred Clark or the Hunt's as "cheap". Only stupid. as in poor choices in spending and allowing an organization to run amok with each new "staff of hope".

Until this ownership actually puts in the effort to win, it won't happen but sporadically.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:19 AM   #33
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I'm not going to put Herm and Carl's tenure on Clark. He was letting his old man's plan follow through, and acted quickly when it failed.
Fine, but Clark has been CEO since 2005 -- before Herm ever showed up and years before Carl completely clowned this franchise.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:20 AM   #34
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Nonetheless he deserves a pat on the back. We have our coach and already assembling the staff this early, unlike when we did the Haley hire.
This is true. You can't say he dragged his heels on this one. And, to be fair, I sort of understand and forgive him for doing so on his previous occasion. His father was not there to consult or to advise. He was on his own for that one and perhaps a bit gun shy. I think he learned his lesson and hopefully will be more proactive on all major decisions in the future.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:20 AM   #35
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Give me a ****ing break. Anyone who wants to criticize Clark at this point is a ****ing idiot beyond reprieve. He went out 4 years ago and hired THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. How was he to know it wouldn't work out? He couldn't possibly. And the second it became apparent that it was a dumpster fire, he sidelined his personal feelings, dumped everyone, and went out and HIRED THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. All at great expense to himself, and his family. **** you assholes. Clark Hunt is a GREAT owner.
I want to make a correction.

I'm not convinced Hunt did the research on either Pioli or Reid.

I think he went out and signed the biggest name he could. That's as much about optics as it is about results. The best guy isn't always the biggest name.

I've defended Clark from the beginning. Most of the criticisms levied against him don't hold water unless they want an Al Davis/Dan Snyder/Jerry Jones owner pretending to be a GM. I sure as hell don't.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:24 AM   #36
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Fine, but Clark has been CEO since 2005 -- before Herm ever showed up and years before Carl completely clowned this franchise.
That's fair enough.

I do not know how active or token his role was at that point. I really doubt Clark, as CEO in 2005, could have just fired Peterson if he wanted to.

I'm saying the track record of EFFORT is there. The track record of success is not. The major criticism against him, that he doesn't care... would rather play soccer, are all bullshit.

Almost every decision he's made has been wrong, but they haven't been cheap.
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Haters are going to hate, the hateful little bitches.

Clark is emerging as a pretty interesting guy, actually. It appears he is willing to spend enormous amounts of money in exchange for a good night's sleep knowing that the franchise is in good hands. No meddler, he.

I have always heard that Clark was "competitive". Almost everyone who knows him personally and speaks to the media about him eventually uses that adjective. So far as I am concerned, Clark's actions over the past few days speak to his desire to field a competitive team and I believe him to be a person who wants to win. He also must have a slight streak of "totally malicious vindictive asshole" in him, because castrating Dr. Evil in public then hauling him around as part of the HCIS (head coach interview squad) was kinda mean (although in retrospect, I really like it).

Difficult to read. Competitive. Wealthy and willing to spend cash. Doesn't meddle. Mean as hell.

The perfect owner.

You go, Clark!

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That's fair enough.

I do not know how active or token his role was at that point. I really doubt Clark, as CEO in 2005, could have just fired Peterson if he wanted to.

I'm saying the track record of EFFORT is there. The track record of success is not. The major criticism against him, that he doesn't care... would rather play soccer, are all bullshit.

Almost every decision he's made has been wrong, but they haven't been cheap.
Except for a small but not insignificant 26.6 million of salary cap..
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That's fair enough.

I do not know how active or token his role was at that point. I really doubt Clark, as CEO in 2005, could have just fired Peterson if he wanted to.

I'm saying the track record of EFFORT is there. The track record of success is not. The major criticism against him, that he doesn't care... would rather play soccer, are all bullshit.

Almost every decision he's made has been wrong, but they haven't been cheap.
the major complaint (and compliment, it seems) is that Clark Hunt has managed to pull out million$ in in annual profits while the team avg's 6 - 10 each season.

The problem with this organization has long been accountability. There seems to be a parallel universe in this fanbase -- some folks think the Hunt's are just peachy keen for being great businessmen while others hate the fact they have paid in so much for so little.
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You're speculating on what might have happened. There is no proof to back that up. None. I choose to be optimistic.
I realize that you are now an all-powerful Mod and, as such, answer to no power on Earth, Mr. Mr. Flopnuts, but would you please resist the urge to quote that individual? I use the ignore feature sparingly and only have two people on it, but what's the freaking use when the freaking mods quote her???????!!!!??????

Er ... thank you in advance for your consideration.

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I realize that you are now an all-powerful Mod and, as such, answer to no power on Earth, Mr. Mr. Flopnuts, but would you please resist the urge to quote that individual? I use the ignore feature sparingly and only have two people on it, but what's the freaking use when the freaking mods quote her???????!!!!??????

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Except for a small but not insignificant 26.6 million of salary cap..
Which has absolutely nothing to do with how much a team is spending, as evident by the fact that the Chiefs spent the 3rd most money in the league in 2012.
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Except for a small but not insignificant 26.6 million of salary cap..
I'm sorry you don't understand how the cap works with salaries and bonuses. It's not as tied to money paid out as you may think.
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with how much a team is spending, as evident by the fact that the Chiefs spent the 3rd most money in the league in 2012.
Which I believe goes back to Pioli and his dereliction of duty.
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