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Old 01-03-2013, 12:01 AM  
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Illinois trying to go full batshit crazy on guns

Because if we make everyone who owns a gun a felon then that will stop the felons who own guns in Chicago from shooting each other.....

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Both Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday night praised an Illinois Senate committee's approval of a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

In a party-line vote, the committee approved measures that would ban the possession, delivery, sale and transfer of semiautomatic handguns and rifles, but would allow current owners to keep them. High-capacity ammunition magazines would be restricted.

Quinn said he is very pleased the Public Health Committee took the step.

"There is no place in Illinois for weapons designed to rapidly fire at human targets at close range," he said.

In a statement, Emanuel said in order to protect children, families and communities, there is a need for "common-sense laws that provide the residents of our cities with the safety they deserve."

Gun rights groups, however, said the measures go too far and amount to an assault-weapons ban "on steroids."

Democrats are seeking restrictions in the wake of the school massacre in Connecticut last month and mass shootings in Wisconsin and Colorado last year. While the measures were approved by the committe, supporters will have a tougher sell in the full Senate, where downstate Democrats as well as Republicans are more pro-gun.

One measure would ban the possession, delivery, sale and transfer of semiautomatic handguns and rifles. People who currently own such weapons could keep them but would have to register them. The bill would allow semiautomatic weapons to be used at shooting ranges, but those facilities would be regulated.

National Rifle Association lobbyist Todd Vandermyde told lawmakers the bill would restrict about 75 percent of handguns and 50 percent of long guns in circulation today. He also said it would treat law-abiding gun owners like criminals, and is in conflict with Second Amendment rights upheld by the courts.

"I've never seen a piece of legislation that tramples on so many court decisions," Vandermyde said.

The bill's sponsor, Sen. Antonio "Tony" Munoz, disagreed.

"For everyone that says that we're taking away their rights, well then go to the range," the Chicago Democrat told members of the Senate Public Health Committee.

The second proposal would limit ammunition magazines and other "ammunition feeding devices" to 10 or fewer rounds. A similar measure received Senate approval in 2007, but the bill's sponsor, Sen. Dan Kotowski, downplayed the idea that a separate effort on shells stood a better chance of passage than the ban on weapons.

"The reason why I'm focusing on that is because (high) magazine capacity has led to the increased lethality and the dangers associated with automatic weapons," the Park Ridge Democrat said.

Gov. Pat Quinn, a Democrat, called for an assault-weapons ban in August after a mass shooting at a Colorado movie theater. But he took the approach -- highly unpopular with legislators -- of rewriting a fairly innocuous bill covering ammunition purchases, substituting language on semiautomatic weapons.

That failed when the General Assembly voted to override his amendatory veto, but mostly because lawmakers thought Quinn had overstepped his authority.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:48 AM   #76
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Kneejerk legislation to appease constituents is always the best way to govern in this country.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:50 AM   #77
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Fox isn't government propaganda but the other networks are to you. Cognitive dissonance much?

You are just flailing now. You should stick to bullying people in the lounge because you aren't good at debating anything.
Says the guy losing the debate.

Try again, Pancho.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:51 AM   #78
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If someone doesn't like it, then they can move to somewhere else.

It's not my ideal situation but that's what the people of NY have decided, so if I'm going to move there then I have to deal with it.
Oh, you should move there. You could hang out with Wickedson.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:52 AM   #79
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:57 AM   #80
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Says the guy losing the debate.

Try again, Pancho.
There is no debate. You have not argued against any of my points. You keep building strawmen and arguing against those. You really are stupid.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:01 AM   #81
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There is no debate. You have not argued against any of my points. You keep building strawmen and arguing against those. You really are stupid.
What points are those, ****head? Arguing with you is like explaining the difference pink and mauve to Steve Wonder.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:04 AM   #82
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What points are those, ****head? Arguing with you is like explaining the difference pink and mauve to Steve Wonder.
That you are a know nothing dipshit who lacks the ability to analyze anything that you disagree with.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:08 AM   #83
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That you are a know nothing dipshit who lacks the ability to analyze anything that you disagree with.
Yeah, keep on telling yourself that.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:09 AM   #84
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Yeah, keep on telling yourself that.
It's not me telling myself anything. You have demonstrated your lack of intellectual abilities several times in this thread (and other gun related threads).
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:13 AM   #85
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That is because you aren't a woman.

In Mississippi they recently passed a law that requires abortion doctors to have admitting privileges at a local hospital. This law is forcing the only remaining abortion clinic in the state to close. So in case of a need for an emergency abortion the woman will have to drive out of state and hope she doesn't die.

That would be like passing a law stating you couldn't sell a gun unless you are part of the local police department.
So what? Seriously, so ****ing what? I don't agree with this, but it is absolutely unimportant to me. Is an abortion doctor going to break into my house at night and attack me with a clothes hanger? No. These issues are NOT COMPARABLE.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:15 AM   #86
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It's not me telling myself anything. You have demonstrated your lack of intellectual abilities several times in this thread (and other gun related threads).
I guess if I was getting regularly owned in these threads and was too ****ing dumb to see it, I'd declare victory, too.

Nice work, de Gaulle.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:37 AM   #87
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So what? Seriously, so ****ing what? I don't agree with this, but it is absolutely unimportant to me. Is an abortion doctor going to break into my house at night and attack me with a clothes hanger? No. These issues are NOT COMPARABLE.
These issues are comparable but I don't want to derail this thread anymore than it has already.

I am just for reasonable gun-control, not out-right bans and I think banning all handguns is stupid and won't do anything. Just like banning alcohol, drugs, gambling, prostitution, had\has little or no effect.
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These issues are comparable but I don't want to derail this thread anymore than it has already.

I am just for reasonable gun-control, not out-right bans and I think banning all handguns is stupid and won't do anything. Just like banning alcohol, drugs, gambling, prostitution, had\has little or no effect.
If you had to choose between two things - the right to own a gun or the right to have an abortion, what would you choose?
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:43 AM   #89
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These issues are comparable but I don't want to derail this thread anymore than it has already.

I am just for reasonable gun-control, not out-right bans and I think banning all handguns is stupid and won't do anything. Just like banning alcohol, drugs, gambling, prostitution, had\has little or no effect.
Oh, it had an effect....people were killed because of these bans.

An Iowa politician is making a call for confiscation: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/io...matic-weapons/

Biden just threatened "Executive Orders".
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Oh, it had an effect....people were killed because of these bans.

An Iowa politician is making a call for confiscation: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/io...matic-weapons/

Biden just threatened "Executive Orders".
Damn, somebody from Western Iowa was stupid enough to say that? I guess we won't be hearing from him again after the next election.
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