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Old 01-03-2013, 12:01 AM  
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Illinois trying to go full batshit crazy on guns

Because if we make everyone who owns a gun a felon then that will stop the felons who own guns in Chicago from shooting each other.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50350330...-restrictions/

Both Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday night praised an Illinois Senate committee's approval of a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

In a party-line vote, the committee approved measures that would ban the possession, delivery, sale and transfer of semiautomatic handguns and rifles, but would allow current owners to keep them. High-capacity ammunition magazines would be restricted.

Quinn said he is very pleased the Public Health Committee took the step.

"There is no place in Illinois for weapons designed to rapidly fire at human targets at close range," he said.

In a statement, Emanuel said in order to protect children, families and communities, there is a need for "common-sense laws that provide the residents of our cities with the safety they deserve."

Gun rights groups, however, said the measures go too far and amount to an assault-weapons ban "on steroids."

Democrats are seeking restrictions in the wake of the school massacre in Connecticut last month and mass shootings in Wisconsin and Colorado last year. While the measures were approved by the committe, supporters will have a tougher sell in the full Senate, where downstate Democrats as well as Republicans are more pro-gun.

One measure would ban the possession, delivery, sale and transfer of semiautomatic handguns and rifles. People who currently own such weapons could keep them but would have to register them. The bill would allow semiautomatic weapons to be used at shooting ranges, but those facilities would be regulated.

National Rifle Association lobbyist Todd Vandermyde told lawmakers the bill would restrict about 75 percent of handguns and 50 percent of long guns in circulation today. He also said it would treat law-abiding gun owners like criminals, and is in conflict with Second Amendment rights upheld by the courts.

"I've never seen a piece of legislation that tramples on so many court decisions," Vandermyde said.

The bill's sponsor, Sen. Antonio "Tony" Munoz, disagreed.

"For everyone that says that we're taking away their rights, well then go to the range," the Chicago Democrat told members of the Senate Public Health Committee.

The second proposal would limit ammunition magazines and other "ammunition feeding devices" to 10 or fewer rounds. A similar measure received Senate approval in 2007, but the bill's sponsor, Sen. Dan Kotowski, downplayed the idea that a separate effort on shells stood a better chance of passage than the ban on weapons.

"The reason why I'm focusing on that is because (high) magazine capacity has led to the increased lethality and the dangers associated with automatic weapons," the Park Ridge Democrat said.

Gov. Pat Quinn, a Democrat, called for an assault-weapons ban in August after a mass shooting at a Colorado movie theater. But he took the approach -- highly unpopular with legislators -- of rewriting a fairly innocuous bill covering ammunition purchases, substituting language on semiautomatic weapons.

That failed when the General Assembly voted to override his amendatory veto, but mostly because lawmakers thought Quinn had overstepped his authority.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:08 PM   #31
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I sold all of mine to a some random guy on the street. He said his name was eric holder.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:12 PM   #32
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I sold all of mine to a some random guy on the street. He said his name was John Smith.
I donated mine to the South Side Hope and Change Movement.

I was assured that they'd all be melted down into plowshares and crack pipes.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:18 PM   #33
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Unfortunately, recently all of my guns sunk and were lost during an unfortunate attempt to ford the river when our family wagon capsized. I have nothing left to report or fight for at this time.
Exactly.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:12 PM   #34
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I'd never really considered joining/donating to the NRA until this month.

Unfortunately, recently all of my guns sunk and were lost during an unfortunate attempt to ford the river when our family wagon capsized. I have nothing left to report or fight for at this time.
The same thing happened to all my bullets. Then unfortunately a bear came along and ate all my now bulletless guns.

Maybe he needed more iron in his diet and didn't want to get lead poisoning??
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:48 PM   #35
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I haven't hit a woman/girl since 4th grade, but I'd gladly sucker punch this **** from left field while holding a roll of quarters.

I'm pretty sure this is more about her making her name in history than the welfare of any US citizens.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:03 PM   #36
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Wow, apparently I missed the conversion from the ATF to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. I would imagine that within ten years it will be called the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosive, Loud Noises, Scary Dogs, Annoying Slide Whistles, That Sore Spot on My Lower Back When I Wake Up, Extra Large Diet Cokes and Chili Cheese Fries.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:19 AM   #37
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Wow, apparently I missed the conversion from the ATF to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. I would imagine that within ten years it will be called the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosive, Loud Noises, Scary Dogs, Annoying Slide Whistles, That Sore Spot on My Lower Back When I Wake Up, Extra Large Diet Cokes and Chili Cheese Fries.
Seeing as how they slaughtered innocent women and children over an allegation of child abuse you can add “child protection by killing them” to that list.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:25 AM   #38
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:34 AM   #39
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I remember when the first smoking ban was passed. They sold it as, we are just wanting to ban smoking on airplanes. That’s the only thing they wanted. Now look at the Charlie Foxtrot that it has turned into. The same thing will happen with the gun ban if it ever gets traction.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:44 AM   #40
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I remember when the first smoking ban was passed. They sold it as, we are just wanting to ban smoking on airplanes. That’s the only thing they wanted. Now look at the Charlie Foxtrot that it has turned into. The same thing will happen with the gun ban if it ever gets traction.
The difference between a smoking ban and guns ban is a lot of bloodshed.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:49 AM   #41
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The difference between a smoking ban and guns ban is a lot of bloodshed.
True, but he's right. I've said for it years, the decades-old war against tobacco is the fascist blueprint for getting rid of guns.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:10 AM   #42
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True, but he's right. I've said for it years, the decades-old war against tobacco is the fascist blueprint for getting rid of guns.
Yep, and that's why I came around on not bending on one thing to those dipshits.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:27 AM   #43
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The difference between a smoking ban and guns ban is a lot of bloodshed.
And a Constitutional amendment.
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True, but he's right. I've said for it years, the decades-old war against tobacco is the fascist blueprint for getting rid of guns.
Too bad your feeble mind doesn't recognize that smoking tobacco is not constitutionally protected whereas gun ownership is.
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Too bad your feeble mind doesn't recognize that smoking tobacco is not constitutionally protected whereas gun ownership is.
Nice deflection, dipshit. Yes, I'm aware of that.

Let me ask you something - and while I realize you're about the dumbest ****ing **** on earth, even you might be able to figure this one out.

Do you truly believe that if the anti-gun lobby gets some compromise legislation passed that restricts some weapons and some magazines, that they'll declare victory, disband and go on about their lives without giving guns another thought? Or do you think they'll use it as a stepping stone to the next thing they can get banned?

Answer that honestly, you ****ing piece of shit. I dare you.
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