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Warrantless wiretapping remains legal o'er the land of the free.
They didn't change a comma.
No warrant needed to tap wires. There are no records that safeguards are being followed. There are no records of how many phonelines are being tapped. There are no records of even the kinds of convesations being recorded. FISA Court rulings continue to be completely secret, completely. As little transparency as possible from those in power. As much transparency as possible from the rest of us. That's America in the 21st century, and it's going to be a blot on our record in the future. Hell, it's a blot on our record now. http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/201...ithout-reform/ Senate Reauthorizes Surveillance Law for Five More Years Without Reform By: Kevin Gosztola Friday December 28, 2012 11:49 am The United States Senate reauthorized a surveillance law that grants the government expanded authority to collec communications of foreign persons outside the US. It also is believed to permit the government to engage in dragnet surveillance of Americans’ communications. The program under the FISA Amendments Act is shrouded in immense secrecy, with there being very little information on whether safeguards against eavesdropping on citizens’ communications are being followed by intelligence agencies like the National Security Agency (NSA). Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon was one of a few senators who took to the floor yesterday and this morning to urge amendments be passed to the law. He highlighted how the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) would not give him a rough estimate of the number of phone calls and emails swept up in the interception of communications under this law. He pointed out how it was impossible to know if any “wholly domestic communications” had been collected under the law because the ODNI declined to answer. He also recounted how NSA director Keith Alexander had exaggerated how the agency safeguards Americans’ privacy while conducting surveillance when he spoke at a major tech conference in July of this year. Even more significant, Wyden warned against the fact that rulings by the FISA court, which reviews and approves of government requests to engage in surveillance, are completely secret. “The public has absolutely no idea what the court is actually saying,” Wyden said. “What it means is the country is in fact developing a secret body of law so Americans have no way of finding out how their laws and Constitution are being interpreted.” Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon sponsored an amendment that would have required the rulings by the FISA court to be made public in some form. The Senate rejected the amendment yesterday evening. Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont tried to advance an amendment that would change the sunset provision of the law from five years to three years, decreasing the amount of time inbetween reauthorizations. This might have increased oversight for a law that most senators know very little about. Leahy’s amendment was rejected by the Senate too. Leading the charge for reauthorization without any reforms was Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein of California. In the tradition of Vice President Dick Cheney and other Bush neoconservatives, she blustered about how America remained under threat of a terrorist attack. She read a list of terrorists, as if the law had helped lead to their arrests but never stated clearly that was what happened. She mentioned Najibullah Zazi, who attempted to blow up the subway in New York City. It was all aimed at disingenuously suggesting that adding these amendments would put America at risk of attacks. Feinstein manufactured this idea that Wyden and others were trying to make public the names of people being subjected to NSA surveillance. She suggested that what the senators trying to reform the law wanted to do is really destroy the program so that it would no longer be an “intelligence tool” available. Of course, there would be no reason to fear the collapse of the program if details on it were divulged if nothing abusive, illegal, or improper was being done under the guise of the law. As The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald summarized: Quote:
The “debate” – which the leadership of the Senate reluctantly squeezed in for senators like Wyden – again showed how much bipartisan consensus on national security matters exists among the political class and how languid and nonchalant they are when anyone warns about risks about civil liberties. In their mind, the FISA Amendments Act, passed in 2008, was proposed to provide safeguards and oversight and halt warrantless wiretapping that took place under the Bush administration and so there was no reason to go to the trouble of adding additional oversight now. * In a hearing on secret law in April 2008, then-Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin condemned this development in government: Quote:
Finally, to make it even more clear how divorced from the tradition of upholding and safeguarding civil liberties senators like Feinstein or Chambliss happen to be, it is worth revisiting Justice Louis D. Brandeis’ dissenting opinion in the case of Olmstead v. United States, where Brandeis sought to define privacy rights under the Fourth and Fifth Amendments. Written in 1928, it touched upon the evolution of technology and how phone calls deserved just as much protection from warrantless eavesdropping as mail deserved protection from warrantless intrusions. It also outlined the very human reasons why government should endeavor to protect people’s privacy: Quote:
All that the senators urged the Senate to support were very modest reforms. They required very little of the intelligence agencies, and in fact, each senator supporting amendments displayed great deference to national security matters. Yet in the War on Terrorism, there can be no room for suggesting that intelligence agencies might be engaged in wholesale violations of Americans’ civil liberties. So, in the same way that Republican senators have come to the aid of the Obama administration to ensure that the military’s power to indefinitely detain and hold citizens suspected of providing “substantial support” for terrorism without charge or trial survives a lawsuit, Feinstein and GOP senators were all too willing to lead the charge and vigorously defend government surveillance powers no matter what the cost may be to civil liberties. |
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I do know that a lot of these "smart" devices and even things like your DVR box and camera on your laptop do have back channels that would allow certain agencies to spy on you without you ever knowing it.
Not too long ago I read an article where kids were being spied on at home with their school issued laptops through the cameras that were installed on them. It's bullshit really. There's no real war on terror. The govt and media want you to think there are terrorists everywhere ready to strike and attack you. But it's on record that most terror attacks in this country have been set up or are linked to agencies in the federal govt.
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Sickening. Between the War on Terror and the War on (some people who use some) Drugs, we will lose all of the important rights.
The NDAA amendment repealing indefinite detention also failed last week. The fourth and fifth are eviscerated, the second hangs by a thread. Sad. |
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This is good. The Senate passing something is a sign of progress and gives us hope.
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Cameras on laptops are easy to get around with a tiny piece of electrical tape.
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Remember when liberals on this forum were calling Bush a Nazi for implementing these tactics? Fun times.
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Senators work hard. Good job.
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