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Old 12-21-2012, 10:16 AM  
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NRA: Society has left children 'utterly defenseless'

NRA: Society has left children 'utterly defenseless'
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(CNN) – Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, said "for all the noise and anger directed at us ... nobody has addressed the most important, pressing and immediate question we face: How do we protect our children right now ... in a way that we know works."

At a press event in Washington, LaPierre said U.S. society has left children "utterly defenseless."

A protester interrupted the NRA appearance before reporters with a banner accusing the NRA of killing children. The protester was led out of the room as he shouted anti-NRA slogans.

LaPierre added that violent crime is increasing in the U.S. due to a lack of willing to prosecute such acts.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:38 PM   #46
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How about improve their image? If non-gun owners see the NRA taking steps toward gun control, I believe they'll soften toward gun owners.
Their image as far as their supporters go is great. Their non-supporters are never going to agree with anything they say, unless they capitulate to gun control, which they are never going to do.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:39 PM   #47
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In case anyone out there is outraged or appalled at the whole "lets have armed guards in school" idea, and are ready to write off the NRA because of that...

Barbara Boxer actually came out with almost the same plan yesterday. (She's also proposing an AWB, but she did announce a "give money to states to pay for armed guards in schools" bill)

When the junior Senator from CA and the National Rifle Association are almost shaking hands on anything, then barring a veto it obviously could happen. I assume Boxer is not some rogue looney within the Dems, and it'll give the entire GOP something to vote for and triumphantly announce they did something.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:39 PM   #48
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I have a relative that thinks we should abolisht he 2nd all together and round up all the guns over a 5 year period.
I shit you not.
I have a couple in my family, some people you just can't reach.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:40 PM   #49
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exactly. I can't believe he thinks
a: it'll be that cut and dry
b: improve anything
c: won't create a precedent
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:42 PM   #50
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exactly. I can't believe he thinks
a: it'll be that cut and dry
b: improve anything
c: won't create a precedent
d: won't lead to a bloody rebellion.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:46 PM   #51
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Your entire existence, everything you will do today is predicated around somebody, somewhere, standing post on the perimeter with a gun. Protecting your worthless, sorry, ungrateful ass.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:46 PM   #52
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and, he's completely unknowledgable about guns to begin with.
he's one that thinks 'assault' weapons mean full-auto scary looking guns. not realizing what sem-auto function is;
didn't know that last assault weapon ban didn't do shit except change the cosmetics of what contitutes and assault weapon etc.

so, it's hard to discuss it with him

don't get me wrong; love him to death and that won't ever change. but we're definitely at the extrme opposites of teh spectrum on this one.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:48 PM   #53
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In case anyone out there is outraged or appalled at the whole "lets have armed guards in school" idea, and are ready to write off the NRA because of that...

Barbara Boxer actually came out with almost the same plan yesterday. (She's also proposing an AWB, but she did announce a "give money to states to pay for armed guards in schools" bill)

When the junior Senator from CA and the National Rifle Association are almost shaking hands on anything, then barring a veto it obviously could happen. I assume Boxer is not some rogue looney within the Dems, and it'll give the entire GOP something to vote for and triumphantly announce they did something.
I like the idea... especially the trained volunteers idea (almost like a Neighborhood Watch concept for guarding schools).

However this can't be the only solution. A comprehensive strategy is needed that includes increased gun regulations.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:49 PM   #54
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The media hypes up all of these events

What do you mean by "hype"? How much coverage is appropriate when 26 people are slaughtered by some lunatic, including 20 very young children? You want one day of coverage and then move on?

Or do you just not want them to mention that the murder weapon was a gun?
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:51 PM   #55
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In case anyone out there is outraged or appalled at the whole "lets have armed guards in school" idea, and are ready to write off the NRA because of that...

Barbara Boxer actually came out with almost the same plan yesterday. (She's also proposing an AWB, but she did announce a "give money to states to pay for armed guards in schools" bill)

When the junior Senator from CA and the National Rifle Association are almost shaking hands on anything, then barring a veto it obviously could happen. I assume Boxer is not some rogue looney within the Dems, and it'll give the entire GOP something to vote for and triumphantly announce they did something.
Why can't state's pay for this?

You'd think they and/or their local districts have just as much desire and interest to make their school's safer.
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What do you mean by "hype"? How much coverage is appropriate when 26 people are slaughtered by some lunatic, including 20 very young children? You want one day of coverage and then move on?

Or do you just not want them to mention that the murder weapon was a gun?
My only complaint is mentioning the shooter's name. There ought to be some kind of voluntary agreement not to give the killer the infamy he may have wanted.

Unfortunately, it probably wouldn't work anyway. If we had a media blackout of the shooter's ID (similar to not reporting names of rape victims or kids charged with crime), it would just appear on Drudge and the smoking gun within the day anyway.
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You don't think that's true?....that's the FIRST thing dictators do once their in power...they take away the people's gun rights...because once you do that you can control them. I think you need to read up on your world history a little bit.

I would give you a serious response but, as soon as I remember that you think that bin Laden died of natural causes in 2006 or somesuch, I remember that I shouldn't really bother. Nothing personal.
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I'd love to see some reporter ask Obama if he agrees or disagrees with that quote, and watch him stammer around and try to get away from answering it. Like he always does.
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