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Old 12-19-2012, 12:02 PM  
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Sell me on Mike Glennon

Right now I don't see anything about the guy that I like.

I haven't watched any more than about 2 minutes of live game footage. I've seen a bunch of highlights of his throws on youtube.

I want to like the guy. I want him to be good so people will stop bitching about how supposedly terrible this year's QB class is, but every time I watch something of his, I get turned off. He's 2nd round material at best to me that will (possibly) get taken in the top 10? Some people even have him as the top QB off the board?

That's pure insanity to me.

Tell me/show me stuff about Mike Glennon that will change my mind. I promise to withhold all preconceived notions about the guy in this thread for the purposes of trying to like him.

Based on the stuff I have watched so far, no. He's NOT better than Geno Smith, and he won't ever be. But I'm tired of shitting on him when everybody is talking him up as potentially a good pro QB.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:56 PM   #511
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:56 PM   #512
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Bridgewater will be exactly like Geno. Last year, Geno put up great numbers, won alot of games. Then, once he becomes overanalyzed, all the talking heads will say he's not worth a first round pick for some reason.
I doubt it'll be similar to what it is with Geno. Louisville's playing absolutely nobody next year. Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, Kentucky, FIU, Houston, Temple, Cincinnati, UConn, South Florida, Central Florida, Memphis and Rutgers. He should have a mammoth season against that line-up and they shouldn't lose many (or any) games.

As far as Geno goes, several of us were talking about him in the 2012 draft thread as a name to watch for 2013. I know I expected him to have huge numbers against Big XII defenses, and as it turns out he did. I thought they'd compete for the league, but I underestimated just how bad WVU's defense was going to be. Not that I expected it to be good. Just good enough to stay on top in shootouts.

They eek out those two 1-point losses and he's on a 9-win team, likely on the stage for the Heisman ceremony and less of a perceived reach in the early first.

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Old 02-02-2013, 11:58 PM   #513
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Also my love for Teddy is not a knock on Geno. They are both from when I grew up. We just need good pass rushing to move to our new coaches defense, and if we don't get it this year than we better be getting Clowney next year.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:59 PM   #514
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And I really think that this class is getting a bad rep for no good reason. I think Geno, Wilson and Barkley will be good starters for years. Hell I think Glennon will be a so-so guy as well.

I think Dysert has the chance to be a decent Kirk Cousins like guy as well.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:00 AM   #515
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Here is the stat that has be concerned the most about Geno and Wilson.


Taking snaps under center. The NFL while envolving still you need to take snaps under center and perform while doing it.

Of course all 4 of them will be top 10 picks IMO.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:00 AM   #516
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His accuracy in the intermediate range is not what I thought it would be and could very well be a problem and I think for him the drop percentage is a slight benefactor (Cobi Hamilton sucks), though this holds true for Glennon more than anybody. He by far had the most drops with over 8%.


Something I found very interesting was that Geno threw into double coverage about 3x more than all the QB's and his 4th quarter yards nosedived on this chart.


If anything, this chart doesn't prove that we should draft Geno. It doesn't prove that we should draft Wilson either. It proves that Glennon and Barkley are the guys to look at.

I'm not the biggest Barkley fan, but I would not be mad at all if we took him at 1. I don't think he's getting enough credit.
Good lord, Wilson gets more excuses around here than anyone I've ever seen.


It's almost comical your hate for Geno at this point.

Question. Does Geno have elite accuracy in your eyes?
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:02 AM   #517
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Geno threw into double coverage more than the other quarterbacks by almost triple and still only ended with 6 picks.

That's sick accuracy and trust in your receivers.

Think about that.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:03 AM   #518
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Actually, nevermind RunKC. I don't really know why I attacked you like that.


I don't have a dog in this race anymore.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:04 AM   #519
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Geno threw into double coverage more than the other quarterbacks by almost triple and still only ended with 6 picks.

That's sick accuracy and trust in your receivers.

Think about that.
If I had Bailey and Austin, I would trust them with my first born.

Also from the guy himself who made these stats;

" I looked at 8 games

I picked games that would average out to their season numbers to get a solid sample size."


So really none of these stats could mean much of anything. He claims to have done it based on games that when averaged would be close to their season averages, but there is more to consider. Such as who they were playing and what type of defense that team plays.
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Good lord, Wilson gets more excuses around here than anyone I've ever seen.


It's almost comical your hate for Geno at this point.

Question. Does Geno have elite accuracy in your eyes?
Very good but not elite IMO. I think the system at WVU helps with that a lot via screens and short/intermediate passes. Barkley threw a lot of short passes too from what I saw.

Not sold on his deep ball accuracy.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:05 AM   #521
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Hopefully if we draft Barkley, the NFL lets us deflate balls so he can achieve that great downfield accuracy.
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To get back into the topic of this thread, I just don't see anything in Glennon. Erratic, inaccurate, really none of the qualities I'm looking for in a QB aside from arm strength.
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To get back into the topic of this thread, I just don't see anything in Glennon. Erratic, inaccurate, really none of the qualities I'm looking for in a QB aside from arm strength.
If you left out the first sentence I would assume you were talking about our QB.
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If I had Bailey and Austin, I would trust them with my first born.

Also from the guy himself who made these stats;

" I looked at 8 games

I picked games that would average out to their season numbers to get a solid sample size."


So really none of these stats could mean much of anything. He claims to have done it based on games that when averaged would be close to their season averages, but there is more to consider. Such as who they were playing and what type of defense that team plays.
So, the whole report is basically worthless.
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Very good but not elite IMO. I think the system at WVU helps with that a lot via screens and short/intermediate passes. Barkley did the same thing though from what I saw.

Not sold on his deep ball accuracy.
So he throws into 3 coverage and double coverage more than any of the others and at a higher rate, yet he completes a higher percentage in doing so, but he doesn't have elite accuracy? Got it.


Like I said, hope we don't draft him. He doesn't deserve it.
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