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Old 12-17-2012, 11:01 AM  
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The Alex Jones Super Thread

First 1-hour segment on his show today



Basically is covering the school shooting like most are. Talks about the REAL problem is most of these people are zombies, on some kind of SSRI drug.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:10 PM   #316
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okay. some tongue in cheek involved. honestly, aussie -- might not be such a bad idea folks get worked up in this country. this guy is dorky imo and plenty could be said regarding his broadcasts, but he does put forth news bits we don't hear in the everyday grind.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:56 PM   #317
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You can't seriously tell me you're offended when I say Mr Alex Jones is crazy.....
Anyone offended by your opinion about this ****ing idiot has a victim mentality. If you went on a rant bashing our country you would be likely to absorb some deserved abuse. You being called out for this is way past stupid~
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:43 PM   #318
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dead serious my man. I got zero prob you putting your opine in this here interweb, I got no prob you calling the dude nutty, but when you criticize our big american mouths & yelling, ya just crossed that very spirited line
I'm not criticizing YOUR "big american mouth". I'm criticizing Alex Jones' big mouth. I just can't imagine how the an American, who I assume doesn't have the same ideas as Alex Jones, can be so offended by my saying that he is "crazy".

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Anyone offended by your opinion about this ****ing idiot has a victim mentality. If you went on a rant bashing our country you would be likely to absorb some deserved abuse. You being called out for this is way past stupid~
THANK YOU! This is what I was thinking this entire time. It's not like I'm saying anything about your country, just 1, very insane sounding radio host from said country.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:07 AM   #319
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Yeah, funny.

This is just pulled from wikipedia, but there is plenty more reliable info out there about weather modification.
Here is the Weather as Warfare PDF from the Air Force 1996...

Weather Modification is plausible and quite probable. Especially with all of the dollars that have gone into research and experimentation the last 50+ years.

http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:17 AM   #320
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You can't seriously tell me you're offended when I say Mr Alex Jones is crazy.....
I am refreshed that a fellow human being sees Alex Jones for the bullshit artist that he really is. I'm offended when my fellow Americans mistake this bullshit for journalism.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:27 AM   #321
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there were studies done after 911 , when the planes did not fly,
that showed contrails cause cloud formation

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google it

but the human race does not affect global warming ?cooling/ environment at all
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:29 AM   #322
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In skies normally crosshatched with condensation trails, the only contrails seen in this image from September 12, 2001, were left by the plane returning President George W. Bush to Washington from Nebraska and several escort fighters. Enlarge Photo credit: Courtesy NASA Langley Research
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In this true-color satellite image shot above northwestern Europe, the contrast between skies with contrails and those without offers a striking sense of the influence these pseudo clouds might have on regional climate. Photo credit: Courtesy NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
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he sheer number of contrails generated on a typical day in busy air corridors can come as a shock. A NASA satellite took this enhanced infrared image of the southeastern U.S. on January 29, 2004. Enlarge
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:33 AM   #325
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I am refreshed that a fellow human being sees Alex Jones for the bullshit artist that he really is. I'm offended when my fellow Americans mistake this bullshit for journalism.
It's good hearing this from another person on here. If someone came along and made fun of some politically/religously insane guy from Australia, I wouldn't be offended by some simply saying "Well he's crazy".
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:39 AM   #326
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Contrail hiatus
At least that was the case until September 11, 2001. For the first time since the jet age began, virtually all aircraft were grounded over the United States for three days. Even as they tried like the rest of us to absorb the enormity of the terrorist attacks, climatologists realized they had an unprecedented opportunity to scrutinize individual contrails, and several studies were quickly launched.

One study looked at the aforementioned contrails that grew to cover 7,700 square miles. Those condensation trails arose in the wake of six military aircraft flying between Virginia and Pennsylvania on September 12, 2001. From those isolated contrails, unmixed as they were with the usual dozens of others, Patrick Minnis, a senior research scientist at NASA's Langely Research Center, and his colleagues were able to gain valuable insight into how a single contrail forms. Those once-in-a-lifetime data sets are so useful that Minnis is about to analyze them again in an expanded study.

Another study that took advantage of the grounding gave striking evidence of what contrails can do. David Travis of the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater and two colleagues measured the difference, over those three contrail-free days, between the highest daytime temperature and the lowest nighttime temperature across the continental U.S. They compared those data with the average range in day-night temperatures for the period 1971-2000, again across the contiguous 48 states. Travis's team discovered that from roughly midday September 11 to midday September 14, the days had become warmer and the nights cooler, with the overall range greater by about two degrees Fahrenheit.

These results suggest that contrails can suppress both daytime highs (by reflecting sunlight back to space) and nighttime lows (by trapping radiated heat). That is, they can be both cooling and warming clouds. But what is the net effect? Do they cool more than they warm, or vice versa? "Well, the assumption is a net warming," Travis says, "but there is a lot of argument still going on about how much of a warming effect they produce."
Contrails looking like wispy clouds over northwestern Europe

In this true-color satellite image shot above northwestern Europe, the contrast between skies with contrails and those without offers a striking sense of the influence these pseudo clouds might have on regional climate. Enlarge Photo credit: Courtesy NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

Ongoing debate
In a study published in 2004, for example, Minnis and colleagues reported that contrails are capable of increasing average surface temperatures sufficiently to account for a warming trend in the U.S. between 1975 and 1994. But some climatologists believe Minnis and his colleagues may have overestimated the contrail warming effect.

Even if Minnis's estimates are correct, other climate experts feel that any warming from contrails is not something to fret about. In a study published in 2005, James Hansen of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, and colleagues ran models that increased the contrail coverage in Minnis's study by a factor of five. Even with this significant increase, Hansen's team found that global mean temperature change was in the neighborhood of 0.03°C (0.05°F)—a minute amount.

"I too will be looking at contrails with a new eye—a jaundiced one."

"Aircraft are likely to be a significant factor in future climate, but probably not via their contrails," Hansen told me. "I think our main concern about aircraft will be their CO2 emissions, not contrails, which are a pretty small climate forcing."

Minnis counters that Hansen's model, while on target on the global front, doesn't account as accurately for regional temperature changes. "In zones of greatest air traffic, like between 30° and 50° North, there's a large bulge in the actual increase in temperature that's not reflected in the models," he says. "Until they model that bulge, that thing's still up in the air." For his part, Minnis intends to keep his eye on condensation trails and their aftereffects.

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So does Travis, who feels the fact that we can measure a change of any sort should be cause for concern. Even a slight alteration of the daily temperature range, for instance, can have repercussions, he says. "To you and I, that may seem like a nice comfortable-sounding scenario—the days are not as hot, the nights are not as cold—but for natural ecosystems, this could be a real problem. For one thing, you need to have extreme temperatures to weed out the weaker species—it's classic Darwinism."

For this reason, Travis believes we shouldn't sit by and wait to see what happens with contrails. "Anytime we can see an effect from something artificial like that, I think we want to try to do something about it," he says. The British government, for one, may be about to. It's considering requiring planes to fly at lower altitudes over Great Britain in hopes of promoting fewer contrails.

I too will be looking at contrails with a new eye—a jaundiced one. Though I will admit that if they were black as soot, it would be a lot easier.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:45 AM   #327
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It's good hearing this from another person on here. If someone came along and made fun of some politically/religously insane guy from Australia, I wouldn't be offended by some simply saying "Well he's crazy".
Yeah, I don't see the motivation for shouting down someone's opinion in this case based on their nationality. Other than feeding an unhealthy dose of cognitive dissonance.
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Alex Jones, House Republicans, and Those Ammo Purchases
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June 7, 2013 10:58 AM

The House may have just passed an amendment because of Alex Jones. Late on Wednesday, the lower chamber voted to keep the Department of Homeland Security from entering a contract to purchase 1.1 billion rounds of ammunition until it issues a report justifying itself to Congress. After that report is issued, the amendment would require quarterly reports on ammunition purchases.

The Hill explains the rationale behind this amendment, which was proposed by Representative Mark Meadows (R., N.C.):

Meadows said the speed bump is a necessary reaction to news of the huge purchase, which alarmed many Americans and prompted conservative groups to suspect that the government was stocking up on the rounds to fight citizens.

Concerns about the DHS’s ammunition purchases seem to have their genesis in Alex Jones’s conspiracy-theory website, InfoWars (full disclosure: Jones’s site thinks I work for the CIA). The original story about the sheer number of bullets being bought was picked up by numerous news outlets, but here’s the catch: It wasn’t a story. As Tom Stilson reported at Breitbart, the purchases were routine – the DHS buys ammunition in bulk to save money and uses it for training for a number of other agencies. There don’t seem to be any ulterior motives for the purchases, and concerns that the purchases were intended to cause ammunition shortages also seem entirely unfounded.

But that didn’t stop the House from passing that amendment last night, just in case.

Now, this doesn’t necessarily mean House Republicans have been perusing InfoWars for legislative ideas. According to his spokesman, Meadows wasn’t influenced by the site; rather, he received numerous calls from constituents, which prompted him to take action.
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I'm appalled Alex Jones helped stop something that needed stopped. /CP Dipshits who use PBS as journalism
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