2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[duncan_idaho]

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

The 2013 season is closer than we realize. The Royals will feature a rebuilt rotation that likely includes 4 new starters. The most-watched prospects of 2012, Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi are gone, the price required to rebuild the rotation.

The Royals still have Sal Perz, who has even more of a "star" look to him than a year ago. They still have Alcides Escobar, who was a little less SS jesus in 2012 but brought more at the plate. Billy Butler finally hit a number of home runs that matches his build and how hard he hits the ball. Alex Gordon did it again. Hosmer and Moose struggled.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?
2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
5) Who regresses?
6) Who plays 2B?
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Yeah I don't think we can afford to give away any of our MLB bats.

I really like our core of Cain, Gordon, Moustakas, Escobar, Hosmer, Perez and Butler. There are far worse lineups than that...in fact, if a few of those guys take a marginal step or two, that might even be considered an elite lineup.

We'd have an elite lineup, with an elite bullpen, and a decent rotation. Give us a couple of bounces and I don't see why we can't compete for the division.

We can't have an elite lineup with two gaping holes.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

even with Frenchy and whoever plays 2nd batting 8th and 9th (though I'm sure Frenchy will hit 6th or 7th for some reason.

Escobar is great at 9th. Frenchy is probably best at 7th after Perez. This lets the 8th be 2B and 9th be Escobar or the CF is Escobar is better at the 2 spot. Either way Frenchy batting 7th prevents him from being too much of an intrical part of the offense. You don't rely too much on him to drive in runs but you also don't rely too much on him to start rallies.

[unnecessary drama]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

We can't have an elite lineup with two gaping holes.

I kind of just disagree...

There aren't a lot of lineups in baseball that don't have 1-2 weak spots.

Maybe I'm wrong.

I just think our core 7 can make up for 2 shitty players...especially if we can get some production out of those 2 shitty players (you never know I guess)

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Yeah I don't think we can afford to give away any of our MLB bats.

I really like our core of Cain, Gordon, Moustakas, Escobar, Hosmer, Perez and Butler. There are far worse lineups than that...in fact, if a few of those guys take a marginal step or two, that might even be considered an elite lineup.

We'd have an elite lineup, with an elite bullpen, and a decent rotation. Give us a couple of bounces and I don't see why we can't compete for the division.

While I applaud your spirits, an "elite" offense scores around 800+ runs over the course of the year.

You honestly think that lineup will score 800 runs? ESPECIALLY with it being anchored by Frenchy\Getz?

I think they have the potential to improve to maybe 720 runs... but 800 runs I don't see in their near future... Now maybe if we had a young stud RF'r hitting 35 HR's in the middle of our lineup... But where would we ever find such a commodity?

[unnecessary drama]

didn't we have the 12th ranked offense last year? Or was that just in the AL? I don't know, I kind of lost interest after we started 3-50

[unnecessary drama]

I can't see Hosmer not hitting at least .280 this year. I think Moustakas takes at least a marginal step forward. Gordon and Butler we can expect the same.

I really, really like Cain. I think he has great potential both offensively and defensively. If we got say .300 15/80 and 20 SB's out of him? (which is reasonable) and a healthy season? Added with a star in Perez?

I'm just saying...we could be borderline elite.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I think they have the potential to improve to maybe 720 runs... but 800 runs I don't see in their near future... Now maybe if we had a young stud RF'r hitting 35 HR's in the middle of our lineup... But where would we ever find such a commodity?

If you think Myers would've been hitting 35 HRs playing half his games at the K, I have a bridge and some beach front property to sell you.

[mr. tegu]

My ideal lineup assuming Frenchy is playing:

Gordon
Cain
Hosmer
Butler
Moose
Perez
Frenchy
Getz (assuming he is 2B)
Escobar (when Dyson plays, put Escobar to 2nd and Dyson 9th)

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

If you think Myers would've been hitting 35 HRs playing half his games at the K, I have a bridge and some beach front property to sell you.

That was tongue in cheek.

The point was -> KC is no where near an "elite" offense.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I think Moustakas takes at least a marginal step forward.

Moose just needs to stretch his first half out to a full season and he will be really good. I think no more Seitzer is a win as well. I can't believe how much he screwed with guys' swings and approaches. That and hopefully the days of taking first pitch strikes right down the middle no matter the situation are over as well.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Zeke

That was tongue in cheek.

The point was -> KC is no where near an "elite" offense.

I would say that depends largely on Hosmer and Moose. Not Frenchy and Getz.

[unnecessary drama]

well take an offense in the AL central and tell me why they are better than KC's offense.

Detroit has two GREAT bats and a few pretty good ones...but they have holes, too.

The White Sox strike out way too often, but they have a pretty comparable offense...probably more power for less average.

We are better offensively than Cleveland and Minnesota.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

didn't we have the 12th ranked offense last year? Or was that just in the AL? I don't know, I kind of lost interest after we started 3-50

That was in the AL. Our hitting actually ranked behind our pitching.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I can't see Hosmer not hitting at least .280 this year. I think Moustakas takes at least a marginal step forward. Gordon and Butler we can expect the same.

I really, really like Cain. I think he has great potential both offensively and defensively. If we got say .300 15/80 and 20 SB's out of him? (which is reasonable) and a healthy season? Added with a star in Perez?

I'm just saying...we could be borderline elite.

If Hosmer and Mous develop into consistent hitters at the ML level this season, we will improve to over 700 runs.

Expecting Cain to put up those numbers is complete and total homerism. The guy has all of 8 career HR's and 45 RBi's in 400+ AB's spread out over 3 seasons...

If he stays healthy, we're looking at about a .750 OPS guy that plays respectable defense.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I kind of just disagree...

There aren't a lot of lineups in baseball that don't have 1-2 weak spots.

Maybe I'm wrong.

I just think our core 7 can make up for 2 shitty players...especially if we can get some production out of those 2 shitty players (you never know I guess)

Everyone has weak spots. The Royals have Getz and Francouer.