Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 54

duncan_idaho · 01:33 PM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

The 2013 season is closer than we realize. The Royals will feature a rebuilt rotation that likely includes 4 new starters. The most-watched prospects of 2012, Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi are gone, the price required to rebuild the rotation.

The Royals still have Sal Perz, who has even more of a "star" look to him than a year ago. They still have Alcides Escobar, who was a little less SS jesus in 2012 but brought more at the plate. Billy Butler finally hit a number of home runs that matches his build and how hard he hits the ball. Alex Gordon did it again. Hosmer and Moose struggled.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?
2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
5) Who regresses?
6) Who plays 2B?
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?

Three7s · 02-12-2013, 07:06 PM

So, how many games does Franshit cost the Royals this year?

KChiefs1 · 02-12-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

So, how many games does Franshit cost the Royals this year?

81

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-13-2013, 06:49 AM

Ha. Elliot Johnson sucks. Enjoy.

Sure-Oz · 02-13-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Ha. Elliot Johnson sucks. Enjoy.

Chris Getz on Roids, 6 HRS!!!

Prison Bitch · 02-13-2013, 05:07 PM

Can someone explain why Mendoza doesn't get more discussion as the 5th starter? Dayton was on Sunday Sports and I think Mendoza was about the fourth guy he mentioned as a possibility. Obviously they will go with golden boy Hochevar until they can't, but I thought Mendoza pitched really well. HIs peripherals were no different from his actual ERA so he wasn't lucky, and 25 starts with a 4.30 FIP is damn good in the A.L. and better than Luke or Santana or Guthrie's best year. Just named MVP of the Caribbean WS too with 13 scoreless innings.

Can someone explain it?

theelusiveeightrop · 02-13-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Can someone explain why Mendoza doesn't get more discussion as the 5th starter? Dayton was on Sunday Sports and I think Mendoza was about the fourth guy he mentioned as a possibility. Obviously they will go with golden boy Hochevar until they can't, but I thought Mendoza pitched really well. HIs peripherals were no different from his actual ERA so he wasn't lucky, and 25 starts with a 4.30 FIP is damn good in the A.L. and better than Luke or Santana or Guthrie's best year. Just named MVP of the Caribbean WS too with 13 scoreless innings.

Can someone explain it?

Even to us faithful, we now know GMDM is an idiot.

Prison Bitch · 02-13-2013, 05:12 PM

Well, he was smart enough to pick up Mendoza and smart enough to give him 25 starts, even if it was by accident. I guess I don't see why he wouldn't see the value in what Mendoza gave him last year or see his performance this month as proof he's a very good option.

ImAWalkingCorpse · 02-13-2013, 05:25 PM

Hey has anyone seen the Spring Training Royals hats yet?

sedated · 02-13-2013, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Can someone explain why Mendoza doesn't get more discussion as the 5th starter? Dayton was on Sunday Sports and I think Mendoza was about the fourth guy he mentioned as a possibility. Obviously they will go with golden boy Hochevar until they can't, but I thought Mendoza pitched really well. HIs peripherals were no different from his actual ERA so he wasn't lucky, and 25 starts with a 4.30 FIP is damn good in the A.L. and better than Luke or Santana or Guthrie's best year. Just named MVP of the Caribbean WS too with 13 scoreless innings.

Can someone explain it?

Trying to be play devil's advocate here, but Hoch cant pitch out of the stretch and falls apart when guys get on base - not exactly the perfect bullpen guy.

Mendoza is better, but his versatility is kind of his downfall.

KCUnited · 02-13-2013, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImAWalkingCorpse

Hey has anyone seen the Spring Training Royals hats yet?

I like them.

stonedstooge · 02-13-2013, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Can someone explain why Mendoza doesn't get more discussion as the 5th starter? Dayton was on Sunday Sports and I think Mendoza was about the fourth guy he mentioned as a possibility. Obviously they will go with golden boy Hochevar until they can't, but I thought Mendoza pitched really well. HIs peripherals were no different from his actual ERA so he wasn't lucky, and 25 starts with a 4.30 FIP is damn good in the A.L. and better than Luke or Santana or Guthrie's best year. Just named MVP of the Caribbean WS too with 13 scoreless innings.

Can someone explain it?

He had to fight his way into the lineup last year. Maybe that's what he does best?

Bambi · 02-13-2013, 08:40 PM

Actual 2013 Slogan: TBD

That is perfect.

mr. tegu · 02-13-2013, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

Trying to be play devil's advocate here, but Hoch cant pitch out of the stretch and falls apart when guys get on base - not exactly the perfect bullpen guy.

Mendoza is better, but his versatility is kind of his downfall.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. Mendoza is an excellent long reliever and spot starter. He is probably also more adapt than Hoch with an irregular pitching schedule.

Big Smoke · 02-13-2013, 10:27 PM

Hoch sucks. He should be replaced by Mendoza or any other pitcher. Don't care who. Just say no to Hoch

**DeezNutz** · 02-13-2013, 10:50 PM

It's funny that we even have to continue to discuss an historically bad starting pitcher. Hoch is obviously a statistical abomination, and, to me, he doesn't even pass the eye test. His stuff can be a tick above average, but he lacks a true out pitch. I firmly believe that his breaking stuff isn't plus, and I've always held this view.

12-11-2012, 08:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $52591	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. The 2013 season is closer than we realize. The Royals will feature a rebuilt rotation that likely includes 4 new starters. The most-watched prospects of 2012, Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi are gone, the price required to rebuild the rotation. The Royals still have Sal Perz, who has even more of a "star" look to him than a year ago. They still have Alcides Escobar, who was a little less SS jesus in 2012 but brought more at the plate. Billy Butler finally hit a number of home runs that matches his build and how hard he hits the ball. Alex Gordon did it again. Hosmer and Moose struggled. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? 5) Who regresses? 6) Who plays 2B? 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 02-21-2013 at 01:33 PM..
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Prison Bitch Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Lees summit Casino cash: $20042	Can someone explain why Mendoza doesn't get more discussion as the 5th starter? Dayton was on Sunday Sports and I think Mendoza was about the fourth guy he mentioned as a possibility. Obviously they will go with golden boy Hochevar until they can't, but I thought Mendoza pitched really well. HIs peripherals were no different from his actual ERA so he wasn't lucky, and 25 starts with a 4.30 FIP is damn good in the A.L. and better than Luke or Santana or Guthrie's best year. Just named MVP of the Caribbean WS too with 13 scoreless innings. Can someone explain it?
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Prison Bitch Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Lees summit Casino cash: $20042	Well, he was smart enough to pick up Mendoza and smart enough to give him 25 starts, even if it was by accident. I guess I don't see why he wouldn't see the value in what Mendoza gave him last year or see his performance this month as proof he's a very good option.
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