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Old 12-11-2012, 08:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 12-11-2012, 10:25 PM   #196
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Everyone of those pitchers have potential to be #1 or #2 starters on a playoff team. They all have 6 years of control left to their "owners". Thats as expensive as trades get.

Of course, Colby Rasmus also projected as a 3-hitter in the bigs. #5 (2009) and #3 (2010) overall in the BBAmerica prospect rankings. Hit 37 doubles & 29 HR as a 20 year old at AA before coming up. And hit 28 doubles & 23 HR as a 23 year old regular in the Cardinals lineup before being dealt.


And what was he dealt for? 1/2 season of Edwin Jackson and Octavio Dotel. So we see how Cardinal "can't miss prospects" do in fact miss. He's been atrocious in Toronto.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:27 PM   #197
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The more I think about the Royal's transactions, the more I begin to think that this is about creating a winning environment for the youngsters. The fact is that they need to have hope going into the season that they can contend. I mean, you could see the pressure that losing was creating on the younger guys last year.
Dayton Moore has pretty much openly said this. One of these interviews he did this week, he told a story from a couple years ago where apparently Greinke asked him why he couldn't trade some of these prospects for major leaguers and make this team better. DM said he didn't think it was time for that yet... but now it is.
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No way Mo our GM can expect a Calixte for a utility player. :

Well he traded Skip today for a utility player who is not even ranked in the Dodgers top-10:


Top Dodgers' Prospects

1. Zach Lee RHP
2. Corey Seager SS/3B
3. Yasiel Puig CF/RF
4. Joc Pederson CF
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Came here for some info/opinions on the sherrill and wheeler signings... was disappointed
Sherrill is a sneaky little signing. Wheeler less so (though bullpen depth is always helpful).

If Sherrill comes back healthy, he could be a really nice LOOGY. They're planning to slot Donnie Joseph there, and I think he works out nicely, but it's good to have insurance at that spot if Joseph's control continues to be a major problem.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:19 PM   #201
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I was thinking of J.P. Ricciardi.
Keith Law doesn't like Ricciardi at all, BTW. He's taken regular shots at him since he left the Jays organization. Doing so hasn't helped his MLB employability, I'm sure.
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I always have a hard time keep him and De Podesta straight. Not sure why.

Brainfart moment.
The two worked together under Beane in Oakland. So was Ricciardi the huge asshole that you talked to or was it still De Podesta?
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Well he traded Skip today for a utility player who is not even ranked in the Dodgers top-10:


Top Dodgers' Prospects

1. Zach Lee RHP
2. Corey Seager SS/3B
3. Yasiel Puig CF/RF
4. Joc Pederson CF
5. Chris Reed LHP
6. Blake Smith RF
7. Garrett Gould RHP
8. Alex Castellanos 2B/OF
9. Scott Van Slyke OF/1B
10. Shawn Tolleson RHP
I think another team can trade for Zach Lee, imo, he's going to be really really good.

Puig is the only guy that imo is untradeable. they paid alot for the kid and he has enormous talent. He's gonna be a beast.
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The two worked together under Beane in Oakland. So was Ricciardi the huge asshole that you talked to or was it still De Podesta?
It was De Podesta, definitely.

It was in the middle of baseball preview season, so I was doing a lot of random calls. Probably why the two blurred together for me.
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Are we still in talks with Dickey? He isn't much more expensive than Hoch is this year and will cost around 12 per year for a 2 year extension.
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They are playing the press conference for our new guys on 610. Starting to get a bit excited. I love their attitudes that is for sure. Ned brought me down when he said he feels like Hoch is going to turn a corner this year.
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They are playing the press conference for our new guys on 610. Starting to get a bit excited. I love their attitudes that is for sure. Ned brought me down when he said he feels like Hoch is going to turn a corner this year.
James Shields has a great personality and you can tell he definitely expects to win. Wade Davis seemed like a pretty quiet guy, and Shields even answered a question for him at one point.

I am so excited for this season, and I will definitely be giving the team a standing O when they hit the field on opening day.
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Woa. This is going to be a fun summer if they get even close to that.
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94-68! Woohoo! He was only 2 games off last season and he actually predicted 2 games worse than what we finished.
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