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Old 12-10-2012, 02:44 PM  
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You scared?

Any of you guys worried this year marks the beginning of another seriously dry spell for Chiefs football? I can easily see them blowing for another decade based on this horrific tenure by Pioli. Am I just paranoid or is this a legitimate fear? I don't want to become a casual fan who watches 3 games a year.

Anybody have any reason for optimism in 2013 and 2014? I know high first round draft picks are reason for optimism but the bust rate for quarterbacks is higher than defensive linemen and we all know how we've fared selecting early defensive linemen.

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:47 PM   #91
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In case you haven't noticed we play to half empty stadiums...fans are flying banners in disgust...and that does not count the fans who are apathetic who dont GAF anymore...

But no the organization is just one call away from being good to go I am sure of it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:47 PM   #92
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Pretty sure Hank got screwed over because of Pioli.
Sucks to have an absentee owner.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:47 PM   #93
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We'll see after the draft.

If they do not draft Geno Smith, I will really not give two shits and continue to just watch the Lions.
Well at least I have the option to watch Greenbay without Sunday ticket.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:48 PM   #94
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In case you haven't noticed we play to half empty stadiums...fans are flying banners in disgust...and that is just for the fans who are apathetic...

But no the organization is just one call away from being good to go I am sure of it.
So we sat through 20 years of Carl Peterson only to throw in the towel after 3+ years of his replacement?

Don't be a pussy.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:50 PM   #95
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I,too, checked the date of the post. Thought you were joking. Only thing I remember from the Super Bowl is my Father telling me tales of the water pressure in KC dropping at half time.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:51 PM   #96
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FFS, Clark did exactly what we/everyone with SB (yeah I said it) aspirations wanted him to do.

He could have stayed the status quo, kept churning out 7-9 win seasons with an occasional 10 win season thrown in there and kept printing money like it was nothing.

But no, he changed the whole damn environment at Arrowhead. Swept the mediocrity out the door and tried a different route.

Now, obviously we know now that this route wasn't the right one, which likely will be changed AGAIN in a month.

So Clark will have changed 2 in 6 years or so. Thats right change again. It's broke, he's gonna fix it, or atleast try.

Why are some so afraid of change?
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:51 PM   #97
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I'm not scared about it... I'ts like the apocalypse, just sit back and enjoy it. There's nothing you can do about it anyway.
If the Chiefs take Geno and get a proven winning coach, (say Reid, Gruden, etc) then this team will progress quickly.
If they draft Tyson Sims-Dorsey and select Todd McDaniels as coach, then sit back and enjoy the ass rape.
Boy, that would ****ing seal the deal. All my Chiefs stuff is already in a box in the basement. That would guarantee it stays there.

I've threatened to dump Sunday Ticket for years - seems like a no brainer now. They need to fix, and I mean really ****ing fix, serious problems from top to bottom. No more Pioli, no more Crennel, no more Daboll, no more Cassel, no more being millions and millions under the cap while the few good players we have sign elsewhere.

These things will happen or I'll be elsewhere. Enough of this shit.
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fantasy football and sports bets have kept me interested

but I miss having passion for Chiefs football

never thought that could be sucked out of me like the Pioli/Cassel Chiefs did
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Boy, that would ****ing seal the deal. All my Chiefs stuff is already in a box in the basement. That would guarantee it stays there.

I've threatened to dump Sunday Ticket for years. They need to fix, and I mean really ****ing fix, serious problems from top to bottom. No more Pioli, no more Crennel, no more Daboll, no more Cassel, no more being millions and millions under the cap while the few good players we have sign elsewhere. '

These things will happen or I'll be elsewhere. Enough of this shit.
Sunday ticket is worth dumping because the rest of the NFL is sorta boring these days.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:52 PM   #100
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fantasy football and sports bets have kept me interested

but I miss having passion for Chiefs football

never thought that could be sucked out of me like the Pioli/Cassel Chiefs did
The worst part of modern sports.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:52 PM   #101
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Guys, it starts and ends with Pioli.

Hire the HC, let him choose his staff & let him assemble the rest of the coaches, scouts, etc. and get out and just run the front office. Let the coaches coach leaving them responsible of their own outcome. Coaches that has control of their own knows the buck starts and stops with them, it's their watch, they will perform better and keep the assistants accountable.

Years ago, Lamar hired Hank and told him to have at it. Hank was never interfered with in his early years,but once he didn't draft well and he relied on older players, he got the axe.

Carl let Marty run his own staff, Marty did well for years, the team went old on talent, many with a shady past, losing came and Marty left. Carl let DV run his own ship,DV burned out first and gave up. I wanted to see DV sat one more year but it didn't happen. Sure we never tasted the glory of a SB with either, but it was much better than this crap. Herm was a good talent evaluator and a good coach,but HC was a reach when he didn't assemble a great staff around him. Gunther was a reach for all practical purposes. But Carl still didn't tell them who to hire and moved away from them when they failed. Pioli can not do this, he had to have control of Haley, had to be able to control Romeo, crap Romeo rolled the dice one last time and we all know he is in over his head.

Get better management and a good QBotF with a very good QB coach, coaches & coordinators and we can build it back pretty quick. But it starts at the top!
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:52 PM   #102
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Hell, i'm embarrassed that it took us this long to raise up and do something like this.


But I guess in the 90's and early 2000's we were just good enough to keep fans vested right?
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:53 PM   #103
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Any of you guys worried this year marks the beginning of another seriously dry spell for Chiefs football? I can easily see them blowing for another decade based on this horrific tenure by Pioli. Am I just paranoid or is this a legitimate fear? I don't want to become a casual fan who watches 3 games a year.

Anybody have any reason for optimism in 2013 and 2014? I know high first round draft picks are reason for optimism but the bust rate for quarterbacks is higher than defensive linemen and we all know how we've fared selecting early defensive linemen.
No. You have legitimate reason to be fearful. With an incompetent ownership the possibly of the Chiefs undergoing another dry spell is pretty good.

It's amazing how some people think that drafting a quarterback is suddenly going to be the answer to resolving the Chiefs problems. It's way more than just a quarterback. The Chiefs have a systemic problem and it begins and ends with ownership. I attribute that statement to Hamas' Jenkins who mentioned that very same thing a while back and I couldn't agree with him more because he ****ing nailed it. Nothing could be further from that truth.

Yes, there is reason to be optimistic with high draft picks in the future, but this optimism does not outweigh nor overpower the consequences that Chiefs ownership brings to the table. I think every Chiefs fan should keep that notion in mind.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:54 PM   #104
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Guys, it starts and ends with Pioli.

Hire the HC, let him choose his staff & let him assemble the rest of the coaches, scouts, etc. and get out and just run the front office. Let the coaches coach leaving them responsible of their own outcome. Coaches that has control of their own knows the buck starts and stops with them, it's their watch, they will perform better and keep the assistants accountable.

Years ago, Lamar hired Hank and told him to have at it. Hank was never interfered with in his early years,but once he didn't draft well and he relied on older players, he got the axe.

Carl let Marty run his own staff, Marty did well for years, the team went old on talent, many with a shady past, losing came and Marty left. Carl let DV run his own ship,DV burned out first and gave up. I wanted to see DV sat one more year but it didn't happen. Sure we never tasted the glory of a SB with either, but it was much better than this crap. Herm was a good talent evaluator and a good coach,but HC was a reach when he didn't assemble a great staff around him. Gunther was a reach for all practical purposes. But Carl still didn't tell them who to hire and moved away from them when they failed. Pioli can not do this, he had to have control of Haley, had to be able to control Romeo, crap Romeo rolled the dice one last time and we all know he is in over his head.

Get better management and a good QBotF with a very good QB coach, coaches & coordinators and we can build it back pretty quick. But it starts at the top!
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:54 PM   #105
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Incompetent ownership?


You guys have completely lost it.


What exactly would you all have Clark do or would you have had him done since he's been owner?
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