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Old 12-10-2012, 02:44 PM  
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You scared?

Any of you guys worried this year marks the beginning of another seriously dry spell for Chiefs football? I can easily see them blowing for another decade based on this horrific tenure by Pioli. Am I just paranoid or is this a legitimate fear? I don't want to become a casual fan who watches 3 games a year.

Anybody have any reason for optimism in 2013 and 2014? I know high first round draft picks are reason for optimism but the bust rate for quarterbacks is higher than defensive linemen and we all know how we've fared selecting early defensive linemen.

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:23 PM   #61
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It isn't the Hunts fault. The people the Hunts hired to do their jobs did their jobs terribly. /Clayton

Pioli is definitely Clark's fault.

Herm/Carl are not.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:24 PM   #62
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How long should I wait Parker.

From 1994 to 2007 - 13 of the 18 years we've been waiting - were under someone other than Clark Hunt...
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:24 PM   #63
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Clark already said he wanted to build via the draft and develop our own QB.

He gets it.

He just needs to find the right guy to execute it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:26 PM   #64
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Pioli is definitely Clark's fault.

Herm/Carl are not.
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There is only one common denominator with all of this losing we have done and it is the Hunt family.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:26 PM   #65
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From 1994 to 2007 - 13 of the 18 years we've been waiting - were under someone other than Clark Hunt...
That is when things really got embarrassing. Can I work under you? Sounds like you are pretty understanding and cool about people being given jobs and failing at them.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:27 PM   #66
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Clark already said he wanted to build via the draft and develop our own QB.

He gets it.

He just needs to find the right guy to execute it.
And Carl had a 5 year plan!

Whatever.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:28 PM   #67
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They had the best offense in the whole league for a while...

Of course they couldn't have that without having the worst defense at the same time. Another failure.
Add a quarterback like Smith or Wilson and get the best coaches we can to develop the kid and that fixes the offense for a long time.

Especially with this OL (that is all young) and the other pieces.

The problem with trades/signings like Trent is the window doesn't leave a lot of room for error on the other side of the ball and our defense was far from ready at the time.

We get a guy that can give us a 8-15 year window and it's on.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:28 PM   #68
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:29 PM   #69
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There is no reason this team shouldn't be a lot more competitive than it is. This is caused by a screwed up environment within the team. Yeah, they need a QB, but let's not pretend the talent level isn't up to snuff in most other aspects of the team. They're just mailing it in.
This right here.

We're just a few months removed from being the favorite to win the division. Talking heads were rattling on and on about how talented this team looked.

That talent didn't just disappear.

You know what happened? Crennel and Dabbol happened.

They created a team of underachievers.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:29 PM   #70
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And Carl had a 5 year plan!

Whatever.
Facts are facts.

Carl and Herm are not on Clark. He took care of that.

Pioli was a giant ****up.

We'll see if Clark has any hiring sense in a couple months.

If not, he's a problem and someone else needs to be in control.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:29 PM   #71
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I'm not scared, but if this offseason doesn't give me reason to hope....I'll cancel Sunday ticket and officially be apathetic.

They're close to ruining football for me and I'll find better things to do. I can hunt most sundays of the NFL Season.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:30 PM   #72
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It was his FIRST HIRE. He made a mistake.
When he finally admits that mistake, and does something about it, then I will have renewed optimism.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:31 PM   #73
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That is when things really got embarrassing. Can I work under you? Sounds like you are pretty understanding and cool about people being given jobs and failing at them.


Stop being a drama queen.

1) I'm not going to condemn Clark for the failings of the guys he DID NOT HIRE.

2) Clark gets a BIG black mark for hiring Pioli. That means he takes the blame from 2009 on. Not 1990-whatever on.

3) Clark is the owner. He's not an employee. He can't be fired. If you're THAT bent out of shape about the ownership of the team, move on.
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It isn't just on the field. This organization is tone deaf and bad in other phases as well. They had a photographer that worked for them for forty ****ing years and screwed him over the first chance they got when Lamar passed.

This turned into a huge court case.


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A photographer who worked for the Kansas City Chiefs for 40 years is complaining that the team misused his images. Hank Young says the Chiefs violated his agreement with the team's public-relations department when it used his photographs to enliven the concourses, entrances and other areas of the new Arrowhead Stadium.

Young's work with the Chiefs began in 1972, the year that Arrowhead opened. According to a lawsuit filed in federal court, Young was an independent contractor who "retained the right to permit or refuse the use of any photographs for non-editorial purposes."



Young granted the Chiefs access to his archives during the renovation, which included the construction of a hall of fame. Young says he was led to believe that his photographs were going to be used in the hall of fame in a way that was consistent with the license agreement.

Later, Young says, the Chiefs attempted to "coerce" him into signing over the rights to his photographs. The team gave Young a deadline of July 23, 2010, the day the press took a tour of the new Arrowhead.

Young, who lives in Fairway, took the tour. He says his images "permeate" the stadium. He estimates that he took at least half of the photographs that are used in artwork on walls, columns and banners.

As Young sees it, the displays violate the terms of his agreement because the images draw attention to concession stands and serve sponsorship deals. A photograph of the offensive line that Young took in 2004, for instance, is featured an a banner that stretches across a gate that Sprint sponsors.

Young alleges that he got a cold response when he went to the front office to talk about the way his images were being used:
Shortly after he learned that the Chiefs had made his artwork a central design aspect of New Arrowhead, Mr. Young requested a meeting with Mark Donovan, who is currently President of the Kansas City Chiefs. At the meeting, Mr. Donovan refused to even discuss the unauthorized use of Mr. Young's Photographs and told Mr. Young that he could not pursue a request for compensation for the use of his Photographs and continue as a game day photographer. Consequently, Mr. Young's forty-year relationship with the Kansas City Chiefs came to end.
In addition to the Chiefs, Young names as defendants the architecture and design firms that worked on the stadium renovations, as well as team sponsors Sprint, Time Warner and Hy-Vee.

The Chiefs declined comment. A spokesman says team officials are aware of Young's claim but have not had a chance to review the file.

http://www.pitch.com/plog/archives/2...his-game-shots

Failing on the field...screwing over local business partners they have worked with for decades...being assholes to fans...
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:33 PM   #75
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If you're THAT bent out of shape about the ownership of the team, move on.
Jesus christ that sucks...

I pretty much though.
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